Chef Boi RD wrote: ↑Fri Dec 05, 2025 8:11 am
I think management is going to have to “read the tea leaves” instead of waiting to hear from the Hughes camp, and that seems to be the crux of Rutherford’s frustration, he’s no dummy.
I agree that this management team will do its best to create a shitshow of epic proportions (see: Bodreau, Miller/Petey) and drag shit out and then try to lowball him - but - it could all be put to rest now, with a joint statement between the club and Hughes' agent deciding on a timeline of when negotiations will start.
The Hughes camp has already come out and said they are not going to discuss Quinn’s situation until the off season, this summer. Everyone is just guessing what his intentions are. I’m just expanding on what Friedman is saying ‘in that the longer this drags out the less favourable it is for Vancouver. I agree with Friedman, and in defence of Friedman, this isn’t media trolling but merely an opinion on the situation.
IMO, Quinn’s return value will decrease the further it goes. If he lets management know this summer that he plans to go to market then we will have missed an opportunity to max out on his trade value buy not trading him this season or at the deadline. You’re not going to get ground breaking returns on Hughes during the summer or next season prior to him becoming a UFA. Jersey is just going to wait this out patiently, you’re gonna get nothing from them.
Jim Rutherford already knows Quinn’s intentions, it’s why he’s been saying what he’s been saying. They’ve been trying to get a read on what Quinn wants but they are hitting a wall. For all Rutherford’s faults he’s no dummy, it’s called wisdom.
Chef Boi RD wrote: ↑Fri Dec 05, 2025 8:05 am
The detriment fom the Canucks perspective is Hughes pending UFA status. As everyone from Friedman to Seravalli have been saying - ‘the longer this drags out the less favourable the situation is for Vancouver’.
The only thing dragging out at this point is the media's hype to run Hughes out of town (all for the sake of clicks). I'm sure Hughes is happy to let things go as they are for quite a while longer.
I wasn’t talking about the media fed frenzy. Even though Freidman said that, I actually agree. It’s not hard to see that the longer this drags out the worst it gets for Vancouver. All I’m asking is - how should the Canucks handle this, if management is put on hold waiting to hear from the Hughes camp what their intentions are. Again, the longer this goes the less favourable it is for the organization regarding maximizing Quinn’s value.
I think management is going to have to “read the tea leaves” instead of waiting to hear from the Hughes camp, and that seems to be the crux of Rutherford’s frustration, he’s no dummy.
on your side, the longer this drags out, the more likley the Canucks retain.. QH for a playoff run with a 4M cap hit?? In the real world, That has a value all on its own. All this negative speculation does is help convince QH he should leave.
We are literally watching the media run the kid out of town, and watching it happen.
disgusting.
It’s warranted. Why the media and fans are triggered over this. Really not sure how anyone can be mystified by the rampant speculation.
Chef Boi RD wrote: ↑Fri Dec 05, 2025 8:05 am
The detriment fom the Canucks perspective is Hughes pending UFA status. As everyone from Friedman to Seravalli have been saying - ‘the longer this drags out the less favourable the situation is for Vancouver’.
The only thing dragging out at this point is the media's hype to run Hughes out of town (all for the sake of clicks). I'm sure Hughes is happy to let things go as they are for quite a while longer.
If it didn’t drag out then RD would have nothing to post about.
Chef Boi RD wrote: ↑Fri Dec 05, 2025 8:05 am
The detriment fom the Canucks perspective is Hughes pending UFA status. As everyone from Friedman to Seravalli have been saying - ‘the longer this drags out the less favourable the situation is for Vancouver’.
The only thing dragging out at this point is the media's hype to run Hughes out of town (all for the sake of clicks). I'm sure Hughes is happy to let things go as they are for quite a while longer.
If it didn’t drag out then RD would have nothing to post about.
If we don’t want any opinions from me let me know. We can just keep it milk toast and dull if that helps? Stay between the lines? Walk in file? Black and white? Is that making it more exciting around here?
If Dude didn't occasionally start some shit or throw some shit against the wall, often of the wild and ridiculous kind to wind people up, there would be even less action around here.
You can shoot him down, disagree or outright mock him, but it's discussion at least.
Appreciate the spark.
More contributions elsewhere would be good.
Of course, we could do with (much) less of the unhinged political Dude, but it is what it is...
"Look, I'm just a bitter old man, ok! "
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Hughes is so valuable, I'm not that there is a realistic trade package scenario in which the Canucks recover full value for him -- even at the deadline.
So, in the best case scenario, management can sell Hughes and ownership on a quick turnaround rebuild scenario (they already have some encouraging young pieces, and a couple of 'core' vets who have a chance to still offer value on their cap hits in a few years) in which the Canucks are competitive while Hughes is still near his playing prime, and get him to gamble a couple more years of his career on a short contract at max salary.
Failing that, the next best option is to get maximum value for him in a trade. Maybe right after an Olympic tournament in which he has dazzled, maybe at the TDD.
The worst case scenario, of course, is letting a will he/won't he situation drag out to the point where Hughes decides not to resign no matter what the offer, and the Canucks get a poor return (down to, and including, absolutely nothing at all) on his departure.
It's impossible for us to know which of the first two is the better course, because we don't know how likely the best case scenario might be. But this organization being what it is, my guess would be "not likely at all". And I think that there is some value to avoiding the worst case scenario.
So while I am certainly not eager to see Hughes leave, my strong suspicion is that "the best trade value that market was ever going to return" is also the best case scenario that the Canucks are likely to achieve.
It’s a tough situation and I don’t think Quinn knows what he wants cause he’s most likely entertaining a lot of scenarios. I’m hoping that with Quinn playing with others at the Olympics the experience may help him come to a conclusion quicker on what he wants to do. If the Canucks are still hovering around last place in the league at the Olympic break I could see Hughes making his mind up then. We’ll see
Agreed RD but wouldn’t a top 3 pick or heaven forbid a 1st OA pick make this team instantly better next season? The teams structure has totally fallen apart because of all the injuries and at the beginning of the season we all knew Demko and Chytil would not last the season but we thought Lankinen would at least play as well as he did last season.
Seems everything that could go wrong has and the D is significantly worse than anticipated.
