Re-booted SKYO approved pipe dreams and trade ideas

[Meds]

Sure, but did you forget that this was one of the worst all-time teams in history?

We're trying to bring in skill for the foreseeable future. We've been talking about needing the kill to protect that skill, so what's DPete going to do? Get fighting lessons from MeatPetey on how to protect his chin?

MeatPetey doesn't have a chin to protect, so how the fuck is he gonna teach something he never had to learn?

[donlever]

Plumber....

Jackey......who can chuck em

Perfect.

So Cootes Lekk Rossi Buium Ohgren Willander Stenberg/McKenna won't get killed while we suck AND he helps us get Dupont.

Winning....

[Cousin Strawberry]

I don’t think anything of value whatsoever needs to go east in that deal (and yes DP has value)

How about wifi is the add on for van to absorb the 6.5 million dollar mentor? Or part of the add on…

Giving MTL that added space is worth some backsheesh

[donlever]

Did I say trade DP for Jack.

All I said was given my druthers I'd rather have the latter right now.

[UWSaint]

I’m with Topper at this point in D-Petey. I don’t see anything more than a 3rd pairing there. So I don’t see him being a part of this organization’s future when they are actually competitive.

I don't see him as likely more than that either. I pumped the brakes on the initial enthusiasm because the issues were clearly there.

Of course, most third rounders won't even get to third pairing status.

But at 22, there's still a good period for development. Big questions about whether the turn is unresolvable, but surely he will pick spots better with wisdom. (If he doesn't, he'll be Noah Juulsen).

The point being that if there's a 10% chance he develops into a middle pairing guy and a 20% chance that he develops into a 4-5 (best suited for a third pairing assignment, but fully capable to cover when there's injuries), that leaves us with "likely won't ever be better than 3rd pair" yet better odds than the defensemen the Canucks take in the second round this draft. And at his age, he's absolutely in the window to be peaking when the Canucks might have their next core identified and playing competitive hockey.

Consider Kevin Bieska. At 22 years old he was a 4th year NCAA player in an unexceptional program and without an NHL contract (Canucks had his rights). He had skating issues, he had picking his spot issues, he had gap control and angle issues, but he played a snarly game and he didn't treat the puck like a grenade. In his age 23 season he made the jump to the AHL, and also developed his game. In his age 24 season, he split time between the minors and the NHL, never being much more than "we're injured who can we dress" at the NHL level.

At that time, at age 24, having played 60 fewer NHL games than EP25 has at age 22, some fanboys surely proclaimed Bieksa's going to be a top 4 defenseman some day. Because he was fun, he delivered some hits, he was old timey in disposition. But its revisionist to think he had better odds of getting there than EP25. I'm not saying EP25 is the next Bieksa, but he's a comparator in that there are several overlapping attributes (good and bad) to what Bieksa showed when Bieksa was already 2 years older than EP25. Whether we've seen the best of EP25 (or close to the best) is a function of how coachable he is, how dedicated he is, how disciplined he is about getting better -- things he controls (and I don't know) -- and how much is fixable.

Don't get me wrong -- he's for sale. But it just doesn't make sense to use an asset like that in exchange for temporary protection that is also available on the waiver wire and the not-high-demand UFA market instead of in exchange for (or as part of a package for) an asset with a chance to be more.

[BoS]

I never understood why Allvin didn’t paper Pettersson down to the AHL after the ‘25 trade deadline, his rookie season. He wasn’t above and beyond ahead of his peers where more AHL time would have been detrimental. He could have been an option for Manny on their quest for the Calder cup.

[Megaterio Llamas]

I never understood why Allvin didn’t paper Pettersson down to the AHL after the ‘25 trade deadline, his rookie season. He wasn’t above and beyond ahead of his peers where more AHL time would have been detrimental. He could have been an option for Manny on their quest for the Calder cup.

That was weird alright. It was like they were actively sheilding him from development.

IMO they might consider giving him this year in Abby to make up for it, or at least a big part of it. As they did with Podkolzin.