Canucks News N Notes 26-27

[Tciso]

I don't think Mancini is ever going to be a regular NHLer. If I'm the team I move on from him while you might still get something back. He just doesn't seem to have the hockey sense to see what's coming and is always reacting once they've occurred.

I see Mancini as a young Schenn. He will likely be a stable 17 minute a night 3rd pairing at 26 or 27. And this is definitely a throw away season, so develop somebody in that #6 spot. Right now, i don't see Schenn getting us even a 7th round pick unless some team is desperate as fook.

[Hockey Widow]

Highly doubtful Schenn waives to be traded. Highly doubtful he is asked to. He was brought in on a one year deal for cultural purposes. His value is more about teaching and supporting the younger D. I could see him transitioning into a defensive coach at some point soon.

I like a lot of things Mancini does and he was a mainstay for Manny during the Calder run. He needs to be given more ice time.He will never be in the top 4 and that is ok.

Agreed that we are over using Hronek in what is a losing season. No need to do that.


Our young D is, well, young still. They will develop.

[Cornuck]

Highly doubtful Schenn waives to be traded. Highly doubtful he is asked to. He was brought in on a one year deal for cultural purposes. His value is more about teaching and supporting the younger D. I could see him transitioning into a defensive coach at some point soon.

That's what I'm thinking - I also think he might want to retire as a Canuck, so trading for a 4th or lower, might not be the best move 'culture wise' - but it will be his call.

[dangler]

I don't think Mancini is ever going to be a regular NHLer. If I'm the team I move on from him while you might still get something back. He just doesn't seem to have the hockey sense to see what's coming and is always reacting once they've occurred.

I see Mancini as a young Schenn. He will likely be a stable 17 minute a night 3rd pairing at 26 or 27. And this is definitely a throw away season, so develop somebody in that #6 spot. Right now, i don't see Schenn getting us even a 7th round pick unless some team is desperate as fook.

Mancinis only got 63 NHL games under his belt. I wouldn't label him a bust just yet.

[Cornuck]

Let's look at some history.... even a win tomorrow won't save us - it will be the worst season at the 20 game mark.

Different circumstances for sure - but man - this rebuild stuff is hard!

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Season	20 G   Points	Context & Immediate Fall-Out
1997–98	4–14–2	10	Head coach Tom Renney was fired after game 19 (4-13-2). Mike Keenan took over for game 20, which resulted in a tie.
2021–22	6–12–2	14	The team hit the 20-game quarter-mark following a 4-1 loss to Pittsburgh. Head coach Travis Green and GM Jim Benning were fired 5 games later.
2025–26	3–16–1	7	Marked the worst 20-game record in franchise history. The team surrendered a catastrophic goal differential before eventually finishing dead last in the NHL.

[donlever]

......like replacing slats on your rotting back deck.

The longer you wait the harder, more costly and more painful the job.

You reap what you sew AIG.

[Madcombinepilot]

I don't think Mancini is ever going to be a regular NHLer. If I'm the team I move on from him while you might still get something back. He just doesn't seem to have the hockey sense to see what's coming and is always reacting once they've occurred.

I have been saying the same thing about Bains, but what the hell do I know. I guess he is a top 6 forward

[donlever]

I don't think any of us get Bains other than from a DEI (alleged) local marketable entity perspective.

Surprised Jet ain't playing here....

[Tciso]

I don't think Mancini is ever going to be a regular NHLer. If I'm the team I move on from him while you might still get something back. He just doesn't seem to have the hockey sense to see what's coming and is always reacting once they've occurred.

I have been saying the same thing about Bains, but what the hell do I know. I guess he is a top 6 forward

I agree with your assesment of Bains. Weirdly, both have played 63 games, and Mancini has more points, and TOI (TOI is expected for a d-man though). But, Mancini is 16 months younger, and D-men do take longer to develop. Mancini doesn't have to improve much to be a solid #6 with size, which is a big void on our defence at the moment. Bains ain't getting better. He's the DEI version of Chaput or Megma. Or, a modern day Studnika or Lockwood. Ya know. The guy every successful team doesn't have. Jacob (Jim) Quillan at least brings size, and fights if needed.

**oh ffs. Lever. I was just about to post the DEI thing, and then you said it.

[Hockey Widow]

I don't think any of us get Bains other than from a DEI (alleged) local marketable entity perspective.

Surprised Jet ain't playing here....

The only thing I can think of is coaching bias. He was a big part of the Calder run and Manny loved the guy. I don't think it is a cultural thing as much as it is a coach going with what he knows and hoping it translates into the NHL at some point.

In camp Manny said he loved what Bains brought with respect to teaching the other players what was expected from them at practice and in games. He knows Manny and his systems and was able to display that throughout camp. So I think Manny is stuck on the guy. Hopefully RJ trades him. Sometimes you have to rip off the bandage.

[donlever]

Blech.

Tocchy opposite.

[Lancer]

I don't think any of us get Bains other than from a DEI (alleged) local marketable entity perspective.

Surprised Jet ain't playing here....

The only thing I can think of is coaching bias. He was a big part of the Calder run and Manny loved the guy. I don't think it is a cultural thing as much as it is a coach going with what he knows and hoping it translates into the NHL at some point.

In camp Manny said he loved what Bains brought with respect to teaching the other players what was expected from them at practice and in games. He knows Manny and his systems and was able to display that throughout camp. So I think Manny is stuck on the guy. Hopefully RJ trades him. Sometimes you have to rip off the bandage.

It's not like there are ready replacements on the farm. Would someone like Mueller or Lind do any better? Cootes will play up here before too long, but I'd rather it be Bains with the big club getting beat up on the stats sheet than the kid. He's a placeholder on a rebuilding team, nothing more. I wager we'll have him this season and maybe next if Novotny or one of the young Abby wingers like Pattersson or Alriksson aren't ready to take his spot. As long as he sets a good example for the kids and embodies how Manny wants is players want to behave on and off the ice, Bains' on-ice production is immaterial.

I mean, who remembers Vadim Sharifjanov or the immortal Darby Hendrickson from the turn of the century? I count Bains among the legion of shleps who played in Vancouver for more than a cup of coffee during the shitty years because there was no one better in the organization at the time.

[Aaronp18]

Why do I feel like our curse(s) will never be lifted?

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[Lancer]

Why do I feel like our curse(s) will never be lifted?

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Somebody burn that shit if it isn't already too late!!!

[Meds]

3-16-1…..

20 games in and we are on pace for 14.7 wins.

12.6 wins if you count OTL’s as actual losses.

We only need 6 though to avoid the worst record in the post-expansion era. The Caps mustered 8 wins in 80 games in 1974-75.