AROUND THE LEAGUE - 26-27

[donlever]

The 8 million is fine on an expected points roi which Kane has continued to display at around 70 points per based on 82 games.

The question is how many games will he play as he continues to age.

No one knows the actual long term prognosis with respect to his hip.

The ancillary positives Mëds refers to are actuals and significant.

He will be good for Bedard in many ways and the contract is as much about mentorship as it is ppg.

The lower $$ value in Detroit was partially impacted by the show us you're not Ryan Kesler scenario after his surgery on the hip as noted above.

But Corn is spot on, Patrick didn't offer up any hometown discounts....

In other news, rumours have Gauthier and the Ducks landing somewhere between Bedard and Carlsson on a ltd in the 16/17 range.

Maybe we should lock up Buium lol...

[Cornuck]

He will be good for Bedard in many ways and the contract is as much about mentorship as it is ppg.

On the ice mentorship, I guess - off the ice?...

Still, seems high, but it's not my money. And it's a good story to sell to the fans having a Cup winner come back home.

[donlever]

Kane is 37 not 21.

Akin to Marchand....grown up a bit.

Off ice issues are not likely to hamper Bedard regardless.

Kid is as driven as they come.

[Cousin Strawberry]

The clear path forward in today's NHL is to lock up your up and comers early and long but we all know these cheap pricks arent going to do anything properly.

[Meds]

I would suggest, in light of where the Blahcocks are as a team, that the ancillary benefits are perhaps not as secondary.

I also would add to your observation regarding Kane’s contract with Detroit (Kesler), that it was more than just the surgery, he was also mid-30’s coming off a year of low production to finish off his $10.5M contract. So the “show me” was more likely that than just post-op concerns.

I think if you are going to do a “show me” based upon health concerns that you don’t go 3 years. The team might want that if they actually believe the player will recover and attempt to leverage that into a very friendly AAV with term, but the player probably doesn’t sign for more than a couple. I suspect that Kane only signed that contract to play with DeBrincat (iirc Kane wasn’t happy when Chicago traded him to Ottawa).

[BCExpat]

I'm not sure what thread this should go in, so I'll put it here.

I'm not sure if any of you follow the Vancouver Giants, but my buddy's grandson just got traded from the Edmonton Oil Kings to the Vancouver Giants. Rhys Pederson is a 6'-5", 205 lb. defensive defenseman.

[donlever]

Yeah....thanks for the heads up Expat......

......we will keep an eye on the kid.

[Todd Bersnoozi]

Not a fan of the top ticket price tag Mëds.

Prefer the Hurricane/Panther strength in numbers methodology.

That's one reason I was not losing much sleep over Hughes.

Yah, I think this might be the best route to build a team as well, although if we happen to find a centre of Joe Sakic calibre, we gotta build around him with a bunch of solid NHLers who are tough to play against. Also find a couple of guys who are decent snipers, they don't have to be elite 50G guys, but maybe 25-40G guys who have a knack for scoring big goals. A guy like Brockstar6 has shown he can be that guy and maybe Lekkermaki23 as well.

If we can't find those guys, that's fine. Just focus on building depth throughout the lineup. The players don't have to be elite, but they have very good at what they do, fit into the system in whatever style we want to play and be tough to play against.

Why do people believe BC boys want to come home and play (at a home town discount too)?

The only players who do that are washed up vets and the Lil'Trojans of the league

Maybe not a big discount, but I can see some guys taking a bit of a cut. I think there's something to be said to have a guy who grew up luving the team and has a the blue & green tattooed on their butts. They luv the team like us and would be cool to have one of our own playing in our colours. Over the years, I can think of Cliffy Ronning and Hamhuis who were kinda those guys; Myers a bit as well. They were not elite, but still very good NHLers. Hopefully Caleb Malhotra can be that local guy with close to elite talent playing on our team. *fingers crossed*

[UWSaint]

The 8 million is fine on an expected points roi which Kane has continued to display at around 70 points per based on 82 games.

8 million is fine because the owner will spend it and the Blackhawks don't have a plan to spend it elsewhere. More important is the term -- which shouldn't hold up what they can do in the future. His salary goes to Frondell. Perfectly optimal? No, but there wasn't an equivalent player on the board, and a playmaking winger (and organizational legend) with a shoot first center is a nice combo that's been lacking.

[Aaronp18]

Celebrini $18.8x5. Takes him straight to UFA in 2032. Similar to Bedard.

[Meds]

Celebrini extended for $18.8M x 5…..that’s getting ahead of it.

Grier just took a big shit on Verbeek’s resume and left it on Henri Samueli’s porch.

[Meds]

Celebrini $18.8x5. Takes him straight to UFA in 2032.

[Aaronp18]

I’m a little confused, why wouldn’t Chicago and San Jose want to try and lock these two up for 8 years?

Are the players not wanting to sign that long of a deal?

Seems really risky for the team.

[Cousin Strawberry]

Definitely the players (or their agents) changing the game.

Loyalty isnt going to be a thing anymore I guess

[Meds]

I’m a little confused, why wouldn’t Chicago and San Jose want to try and lock these two up for 8 years?

Are the players not wanting to sign that long of a deal?

Seems really risky for the team.

Currently it is only the star players that we are seeing sign shorter term deals, and the money they make is staggering and I think the risk is pretty minimal for those guys.

In the cases of Celebrini, Bedard, and Carlsson, they are now set for life. If they sign for longer, sure, they will be setting up their great-great-grandchildren.....but even if their health limits them, or their play simply regresses unexpectedly, they will still receive contract offers. If they play out these 5 year contracts and continue their trajectories then they will be 27 years old and looking to make even more money that much sooner.

I also think it points to players wanting to reach UFA status as quickly as possible in order to better control where they work and live.....and in acquiring that right they also drive the price up to create potential bidding wars.