Just Not ready

[Topper]

Does Caroline Mulrony's resignation from the Ontario Conservative government have implications for Pierre?

[Meds]

Does Caroline Mulrony's resignation from the Ontario Conservative government have implications for Pierre?

My first thought when I saw she was resigning was that a move was coming for her to step from Provincial to Federal (politics).

[Cousin Strawberry]

Not sure if people use this threads thing but I like what Wab Kinew just said to shut down Danielle Smith's nonsense:

https://www.threads.com/@nadhobbs/post/ ... w-G&slof=1

[Tciso]

Not sure if people use this threads thing but I like what Wab Kinew just said to shut down Danielle Smith's nonsense:

https://www.threads.com/@nadhobbs/post/ ... w-G&slof=1

I can't agree. He basically said that Albertans should just wait, and see if we get enough natural resource projects to make Albertans happy. And that Smith was wrong to ask Albertans if they want a referendum or are OK with the status quo. Smith is simply looking for where the goal posts are. Canoe (that's their text to speech, not mine) spoke very well. but it doesn't make him correct.

He didn't acknowledge the significant part of the Albertan population that is pushing for separation, or, any of their concerns. He just brushed them off, and impied that a pipeline should be enough for Alberta to be happy, in spite of all of the other issues many Albertans have with Ottawa.

[Cousin Strawberry]

A landlocked province that essentially has one single resource completely reliant on export (that happens to drive their entire economy)should absolutely wait and see if they can get their primary concern remedied as a member of the existing federation as opposed to trying to wing it alone and hope those neighbours will graciously endow you with favorable trade agreements to get your wealth to market.

I know this is oversimplification but the point stands

[Meds]

Not sure if people use this threads thing but I like what Wab Kinew just said to shut down Danielle Smith's nonsense:

https://www.threads.com/@nadhobbs/post/ ... w-G&slof=1

Kinew: “I’ve heard loud and clear that Indigenous people, from coast to coast to coast, are prepared to use every treaty right at our disposal to ensure that Canada does not lose (Edmonton Oilers captain) Connor McDavid.”

Who is this "we" and what treaty rights are at "our" disposal? Does the Premier of Manitoba represent all of Manitoba or just the 18% of the population that is indigenous?

Canada is a joke right now. We are a democracy that is actively funding oligarchies and monarchies, that keep the majority of their subjects in a state of impoverished dependency, within our own borders.....and letting them dictate to the majority of our citizens who are not part of those smaller nations.

[Meds]

Not sure if people use this threads thing but I like what Wab Kinew just said to shut down Danielle Smith's nonsense:

https://www.threads.com/@nadhobbs/post/ ... w-G&slof=1

I can't agree. He basically said that Albertans should just wait, and see if we get enough natural resource projects to make Albertans happy. And that Smith was wrong to ask Albertans if they want a referendum or are OK with the status quo. Smith is simply looking for where the goal posts are. Canoe (that's their text to speech, not mine) spoke very well. but it doesn't make him correct.

He didn't acknowledge the significant part of the Albertan population that is pushing for separation, or, any of their concerns. He just brushed them off, and impied that a pipeline should be enough for Alberta to be happy, in spite of all of the other issues many Albertans have with Ottawa.

It's also worth noting that more people signed the petition for a referendum than there are indigenous people in the province of Alberta.

If only 25% of Alberta wants to separate, that is more citizens than the entire First Nations population of the entire country.

There are also FN's (not the Chiefs) who are in favour of separation.

[Meds]

Cuz's problem is that he's not Albertan. He's a transplant. He moved there from BC for cheaper living but now is terrified he may have to move back to remain Canadian.

[Topper]

Resource companies in BC have long been given the "duty to consult" for their projects and development. It has been demanded by the Province.

Kinew also ignores the group of the Colville Nation that voluntarily left Canada and declared their Band extinct but are now claiming traditional territories in Canada. They have been granted hunting and fishing rights and intervenor status in mine development on what they claim as traditional territory. Not surprisingly, the Osoyoos Band also claim and the folks in Cranbrook also claim traditional territory over the same area.

Kinew, one needs to remember, is a commie populist.

[Tciso]

Speaking of commies, Greta is sailing to Montreal to take Guibault away. My guess is Narnia is about to become worse off.

[BCExpat]

If nothing else, Alberta is getting a lot more attention from the Feds these days. Finally looks like some movement on pipelines, although until we see shovels in the ground, I'm a bit skeptical. I don't think there is a snowballs chance in hell that Alberta separates, but the mere threat is going to get concessions from the Feds (same playbook that Quebec used, although I think their separatist threat is far more likely to occur).

Personally, I would just like to see Alberta (and all other provinces) get a little more autonomy and less oversight and influence from the Federal government.

[Topper]

Does Guilbailt's resignation open the way for Carney to start tearing down some of the Trudeau era environmental laws stifling growth instead of his current path of cherry picking projects?

[UWSaint]

Personally, I would just like to see Alberta (and all other provinces) get a little more autonomy and less oversight and influence from the Federal government.

Help educate a yank.

I was under the impression that part of the reason so much Canadian trade is north-south oriented (with US) is because east-west trade is stifled by a patchwork of provincial rules and regulations and perhaps underdeveloped east-west transportation infrastructure. That for many industries, its *easier* to trade with the United States than it is to trade with neighboring (and especially more remote) provinces. (Obviously, tariffs make things harder, or at least more costly).

To me, barriers in east-west trade suggests a weak federal government, though I have no idea whether this weakness is a function of lack of authority or lack of exercising authority. The US has a federal structure, too, though nowhere is the federal government's power domestically more robust than when it comes to matters affecting interstate commerce. And even the most ardent supporters of states rights (well, in the modern era, not 1861....)--and I put myself in the group that prefers local or state regulation over most items--tend to support states individually adopting uniform codes affecting commerce. For example, contract law is a matter of state law, not federal law, and yet all 50 states have adopted the Uniform Commercial Code with only the most minor variations between them. In other words, the theory might be states should be able to set their own policies, but the policy that dominates is "don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good; uniformity is our state policy choice". At any rate, the end result is that commerce flows freely between the states, and the federal government encourages it through things like the interstate system to things like preempting conflicting state law in areas that are a step removed from commence (but are related) (e.g., Clean Air Act).

I am digressing -- is my impression correct? Are provincial laws creating a patchwork of nonuniform regulation a significant impairment to interprovincial trade, even to the point of making it no more attractive (and sometimes less attractive) than international trade?

[Topper]

UW, you are correct on the Trade front, also note that professional regulatory bodies are also Provincial meaning an Professional Engineer in BC can not practice in Ontario. Some of this makes sense as while there are things like National Building Codes, each Province then has their own variation. Civic government are also weighing on building codes (green regs - Vancouver bans gas appliances in new builds). Keeping track of the regulations across the country may not be feasible.

What expat may be referring to is our constitutional divisions of power. Provinces have control of health, education and natural resources. The Federal government implemented a national health care program that they largely fund and Provinces administer (but do not share data between Provinces - if a Quebec resident shows up in a BC hospital it is nearly impossible to find out the details of his health care coverage and medical history).

Natural Resources is the biggest complaint of federal intrusion in Provincial jurisdiction. The Feds intrude with environmental regulations and will often weaponize fisheries regulations to excerpt control over Natural Resources.

The Trans Mountain Pipeline tale is a great example.

Trans Mountain, a private company, proposed expanding capacity of their existing pipeline from Edmonton to Vancouver. The Feds said it would require a Federal Environmental Assessment. The BC NDP Government said they would use "every tool in the box" to fight against the expansion. The Feds changed the rules to include the the project through to the end use consumer in the environmental assessment. not only was the pipeline considered but also the end use consumer of the petroleum the pipeline carried.

Trans Mountain said fuck you, it now makes no economic sense, sold the pipeline to the Feds and left Canada for Texas. Ultimately the BC Government lost its case in the Supreme Court, the project was in National interest yadda yadda yadda, the Feds built the pipeline with the delays and cost over run efficiency that only large scale government projects can achieve.

Now the Feds, while denying other pipeline project can still claim they support the industry having already built a pipeline (never mentioning they chased the private company proponent out of the country).

[Topper]

To add, the big inter Provincial trade that makes the news is alcohol. Trade in alcohol is tightly controlled by Provincial Liquor Boards and the regs haven't kept up to market realities. What was once meant as protection of infant fledgling wine industries doesn't match the mature businesses they have become and the direct to consumer sales of many vintners. A BC winery can not direct ship to consumers in much of the rest of Canada. It is nearly impossible to find Ontario wines in BC.

Internationally, the supply management of our dairy raises the hackles of the current US administration. Reality is there is a threshold before import quotas and Canadian tariffs kick in and the US has never gotten near that quota level where tariffs would kick in. What isn't mentioned is that most common US dairy does not meet Canadian Heath Standards. Most of the US industry feeds or injects their dairy cattle with things not permitted in the Canadian industry.