Just Not ready

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5thhorseman wrote: Sun Apr 12, 2026 9:35 pm It's a horrible idea but the problem it's trying to address is real.

https://betterdwelling.com/canadians-ar ... d-workers/
Yes, the problem is real, and it has been for decades.....the numbers are soaring now though because of increased taxation and reduced private sector jobs.

If you have a halfway decent career and get an opportunity out of country, our crumbling public systems should be reason enough to head elsewhere.
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Perhaps isolating the why is this happening and solving the issue by making it less tempting/fruitful to do so would be a superior angle of approach from our fearless leaders.
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donlever wrote: Sun Apr 12, 2026 9:51 pm Perhaps isolating the why is this happening and solving the issue by making it less tempting/fruitful to do so would be a superior angle of approach from our fearless leaders.
That seems to commonly sensical Donny.
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There is a distinct spike in 2017 that has carried through to the current year (covid years excepted).

Affordability due to a housing bubble seems to be the main cause.
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My sister in law and her husband are seriously thinking about moving to Europe. She has double citizenships, so she still has her Finnish passport. He is from Ontario, but as her husband he'll get a residential permit without too much of a fuss.

I guess their main plan would be finding a place in Finland, as that's where she grew up and where one of their sons is going to the university, but I got the impression that her husband is almost more interested in Sweden, as he thinks it is easier to get by with English here and it is more similar to Canada. There's free movement within the EU though, and has been between the Nordic countries since the 1950's, so it should work out either way.

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donlever wrote: Sun Apr 12, 2026 9:51 pm Perhaps isolating the why is this happening and solving the issue by making it less tempting/fruitful to do so would be a superior angle of approach from our fearless leaders.
attack the cause, not the symptom, I haven't heard such a radical idea since I last listened to Rocky Horror.

Reagan had this figured out.

How can people believe government agency taking on tasks will do better when all the evidence points to their inefficiency at everything they do?

Their role is to set regulations and inspect that they are maintained.

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Mëds wrote: Sun Apr 12, 2026 9:56 pm
donlever wrote: Sun Apr 12, 2026 9:51 pm Perhaps isolating the why is this happening and solving the issue by making it less tempting/fruitful to do so would be a superior angle of approach from our fearless leaders.
That seems to commonly sensical Donny.
I don’t mean to bring hockey into creepers grill, but this is why I have no patience for the pissing and moaning about the advantage Florida teams have in the free agent market (or signing their own guys) because they don’t have a state income tax (same with Dallas and Nashville and Seattle). Florida made it more attractive for high income earners to live there. There are tradeoffs to this approach (to any tax approach), but one positive tradeoff is the comparative advantage attracting and retaining high earning professional athletes.

Want people to do business or work in your province or state? Reducing government imposed transaction costs associated with business operation and reducing tax is generally a great place to start.
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Generally, fuck off the whiny and greedy "high income earners". They have already enough which they don't "earn" and looking to squeeze out some more what they don't really need. That's why our world is such a mess.
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174 seats.

Just wanted to do a health and wellness check... if you are still a Canadian Citizen, say Aye.
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JelloPuddingPop wrote: Tue Apr 14, 2026 11:46 am 174 seats.

Just wanted to do a health and wellness check... if you are still a Canadian Citizen, say Aye.
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donlever wrote: Sun Apr 12, 2026 9:51 pm Perhaps isolating the why is this happening and solving the issue by making it less tempting/fruitful to do so would be a superior angle of approach from our fearless leaders.
Mëds wrote:the numbers are soaring now though because of increased taxation and reduced private sector jobs.
Don, I do believe Mëds gave the solution in the previous post. But, with a government that has never met a problem that the only solution is more money, it's unlikely we will get less government, less taxes, and more private sector jobs.
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Mëds wrote:the numbers are soaring now though because of increased taxation and reduced private sector jobs.
Is there really increased taxation?

Using the Fraser Institutes measure of the Canadian Consumer Tax Index, which tracks the total tax burden of the average Canadian family, it's been relatively unchanged for the last 45 years:

1961: Income ≈ $5,000; tax bill ≈ $1,675 → 33.5% of income.
1981: Income ≈ $28,000; tax bill ≈ $11,429 → ≈41%.
1990: Income ≈ $43,200; tax bill ≈ $18,693 → ≈43%.
2000: Income ≈ $54,400; tax bill ≈ $25,268 → ≈46%.
2010: Income ≈ $74,100; tax bill ≈ $31,233 → ≈42%.
2019: Income ≈ $92,600; tax bill ≈ $39,394 → ≈42.6%.
2020: Income ≈ $96,700; tax bill ≈ $37,905 → ≈39.2% (pandemic‑related temporary dip).
2022: Income ≈ $103,500; tax bill ≈ $46,662 → ≈45%.
2024: Income ≈ $114,300; tax bill ≈ $48,306 → 42.3%.

Note that this includes income taxes, payroll and health‑related levies, sales taxes, property taxes, fuel and carbon taxes, and taxes embedded in business costs passed on to consumers.

https://www.fraserinstitute.org/sites/d ... perplexity

Are you one of those whiny "high income earners" who want to be taxed less? ;)
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Signed off for my accountant today.

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Increased taxation? Donny's got people for that :)
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