2025-26: OOTS Thread

[theman]

Sign me up to the sign Gudas bandwagon, assuming it is a a reasonable FA contract signing.

[Madcombinepilot]

He is also FA and is a good friend of Hronek's. They have talked about wanting to play together in the NHL. Would ya?

Gudas?

Currently our left side is Buium and the Pettersson's twain.

Forbort should be gonzo to UFA, and Joseph is unremarkable.

I think Gudas is a lateral move from Marcus Pettersson overall. Meaty is a bit more mobile, but Gudas is tough as fucking nails.....and this team needs that. I think their overall puck skills are a wash.

So I would say absolutely yes to that if we could somehow offload Pettersson. It provides veteran presence with snarl, and it also boosts morale for another veteran leader who has said he wants to stay here.

And Petterson has already hinted (much like DeBrusk), that he is not interested in a rebuild. Sign Gudas, and ship Pettersson for a forward asset or a pick.

a wise man once said:
'This team has too many Fedorov's already'

[theman]

He is also FA and is a good friend of Hronek's. They have talked about wanting to play together in the NHL. Would ya?

Gudas?

Currently our left side is Buium and the Pettersson's twain.

Forbort should be gonzo to UFA, and Joseph is unremarkable.

I think Gudas is a lateral move from Marcus Pettersson overall. Meaty is a bit more mobile, but Gudas is tough as fucking nails.....and this team needs that. I think their overall puck skills are a wash.

So I would say absolutely yes to that if we could somehow offload Pettersson. It provides veteran presence with snarl, and it also boosts morale for another veteran leader who has said he wants to stay here.

And Petterson has already hinted (much like DeBrusk), that he is not interested in a rebuild. Sign Gudas, and ship Pettersson for a forward asset or a pick.

a wise man once said:
'This team has too many Fedorov's already'

Which one?

I am all for shipping out F Petey and DeBrusk.

[Madcombinepilot]

Sign me up to the sign Gudas bandwagon, assuming it is a a reasonable FA contract signing.

It will not be a reasonable contract.

No UFA signing here will be reasonable for the next few years. They will all be 1-2million too much, and 1-2 years too long.

When you suck and in a rebuild, nobody wants to play there... Remember Chicago and SanJ before they got a star?

[Madcombinepilot]

He is also FA and is a good friend of Hronek's. They have talked about wanting to play together in the NHL. Would ya?

Gudas?

Currently our left side is Buium and the Pettersson's twain.

Forbort should be gonzo to UFA, and Joseph is unremarkable.

I think Gudas is a lateral move from Marcus Pettersson overall. Meaty is a bit more mobile, but Gudas is tough as fucking nails.....and this team needs that. I think their overall puck skills are a wash.

So I would say absolutely yes to that if we could somehow offload Pettersson. It provides veteran presence with snarl, and it also boosts morale for another veteran leader who has said he wants to stay here.

And Petterson has already hinted (much like DeBrusk), that he is not interested in a rebuild. Sign Gudas, and ship Pettersson for a forward asset or a pick.

a wise man once said:
'This team has too many Fedorov's already'

Which one?

I am all for shipping out F Petey and DeBrusk.

Pat Quinn said it after Juice punched out Fedor Fedorov. He was asked in the media if he would look at trading for Sergie..

And yeah, I would happily trade out all our Petterssons and DeBrusk. Sign Rob Thomas while we are at it, clean sweep.

[Meds]

Sign me up to the sign Gudas bandwagon, assuming it is a a reasonable FA contract signing.

It will not be a reasonable contract.

No UFA signing here will be reasonable for the next few years. They will all be 1-2million too much, and 1-2 years too long.

When you suck and in a rebuild, nobody wants to play there... Remember Chicago and SanJ before they got a star?

Gudas is 35, no team will offer him more than 3 years. 3 years is not too long for this team right now. Overpaying him by $1M or less is part of the price of rebuilding. His current deal pays him $4M, wherever he lands next will be for less. I would happily pay him $3M x 3 if it meant not paying Meaty $5.5M x 5 (remaining).

The only hiccup in this plan is that Gudas is a RHD, that could create a logjam on the right side depending upon who the Canucks draft.

[Cousin Strawberry]

So I guess the years long argument Doc had with Blob about "cap space does not matter during a rebuild" is over. Doc was right

[Cousin Strawberry]

Reuniting Gudas with Hronek shouldn't be a thing.

Flipping Hronek for multiple 1st rounders is what should be happening

[Carl Yagro]

Flipping Hronek for multiple 1st rounders is what should be happening

I'm not fond of the this sensible, sober-posting Yoodles...

You know even if Raisin got them 1st rounders, he'd immediately call Dubas in Pittsburgh and offer them up for a couple more meat patties like MPetey and PO Joe.

[Cousin Strawberry]

I'm on a long tolerance break Hank. I had some bronchial crap from the covid so am clearing out indefinitely.

It's amazing how clear thoughts can be!

[Meds]

Cap space does matter.....I'd say more than ever with the new rules.

Hence Meaty out and Gudas in which should provide more than $1.5M in space and a reduction in term commitment.

You need to have 2 or 3 vets on your blueline. Hronek is one, Gudas could be the other.

Hronek should not be flipped right now until there is an internal replacement for the top-pairing. That is not happening any time soon. He also has a full NMC for the next 2 seasons and has made it known that he does not want to go anywhere.

Look at flipping him at the 2029 deadline when he still has 3 years remaining but only a 15 team NTC.

Buium - Hronek
_____ - Gudas
Pettersson - Willander
Mancini

Mancini and D-Pete can be moved out if someone in the system displaces them, or if a trade offer comes along that makes sense.

Gudas and Hronek are the vets that hand the reins over to Buium and Willander (and hopefully someone else) in 3 years time.....at which point Hronek can be moved and Gudas can as well, or he simply exits as his hypothetical contract expires.

[Meds]

I'm on a long tolerance break Hank. I had some bronchial crap from the covid so am clearing out indefinitely.

It's amazing how clear thoughts can be!

When the lungs are shot I'm a little surprised you aren't just going for the edibles.....

[Madcombinepilot]

Reuniting Gudas with Hronek shouldn't be a thing.

Flipping Hronek for multiple 1st rounders is what should be happening

I respectfully disagree.. a team needs a couple of veterans to help the youth work through a rebuild, or you end up a perennial bottom feeder like Buffalo was for a decade.

Teams that have done complete and quick (2-4 years) rebuilds ALWAYS had veterans who wanted to be with the team (they were not just there for the money), who had good character (good teammates) and great work ethics.

Hronek fits that bill. If he actually wants to be here, he is exactly what we need. If a veteran convinces a buddy to come here who fits the above requirements, that is exactly who management should be chasing.

[Cornuck]

I'm with Mëds AND MCP on this one - as tempting as it would be get another first (and whatever) - I think Hronek has more value here, giving some stability to the blue line. As long as he wants to be here, that's fine.

[Madcombinepilot]

Cap space does matter.....I'd say more than ever with the new rules.

Hence Meaty out and Gudas in which should provide more than $1.5M in space and a reduction in term commitment.

You need to have 2 or 3 vets on your blueline. Hronek is one, Gudas could be the other.

Hronek should not be flipped right now until there is an internal replacement for the top-pairing. That is not happening any time soon. He also has a full NMC for the next 2 seasons and has made it known that he does not want to go anywhere.

Look at flipping him at the 2029 deadline when he still has 3 years remaining but only a 15 team NTC.

Buium - Hronek
_____ - Gudas
Pettersson - Willander
Mancini

Mancini and D-Pete can be moved out if someone in the system displaces them, or if a trade offer comes along that makes sense.

Gudas and Hronek are the vets that hand the reins over to Buium and Willander (and hopefully someone else) in 3 years time.....at which point Hronek can be moved and Gudas can as well, or he simply exits as his hypothetical contract expires.

I agree on the blue line. This year has shown us what 4 rookies at once on the blue line looks like. And it aint pretty. If the coaching does not switch to a better, stricter defensive structure, 4 sophomores will not look better next year either..