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JelloPuddingPop
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by JelloPuddingPop » Tue Feb 17, 2026 9:54 am
donlever wrote: ↑ Tue Feb 17, 2026 9:24 am
Madcombinepilot wrote: ↑ Tue Feb 17, 2026 7:37 am
Regarding the Tanking..
I think everyone is forgetting a simple fact..
Well...not everyone....
donlever wrote: ↑ Sun Feb 15, 2026 9:30 am
Not sure they're tanking in reality.
The owners are shit.
The team is chasms below NHL legit.
Management have no plan nor theory beyond vacuous dribble and appear to have thrown arms in the air with respect to authentic leadership and quit.
+1
JelloPuddingPop wrote: ↑ Sun Feb 15, 2026 8:54 am
If you change the word "tanking" for the word "losing" you'll feel better.
Van isn't tanking.
They are losing.
They are a terrible team, with subpar goaltending, coaching and zero centre ice depth.
As you say, Mgmt. is just using semantics for this incompetency.
Have a bran muffin, this shit too will pass.
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by Carl Yagro » Tue Feb 17, 2026 10:00 am
I love it when people quote themselves to show they were right.
I try to do that every chance I get
I love it when people quote themselves to show they were right.
I try to do that every chance I get
+2
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JelloPuddingPop
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by JelloPuddingPop » Tue Feb 17, 2026 10:07 am
Carl Yagro wrote: ↑ Tue Feb 17, 2026 10:00 am
I love it when people quote themselves to show they were right.
I try to do that every chance I get
I love it when people quote themselves to show they were right.
I try to do that every chance I get
+2
Cornuck
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by Cornuck » Tue Feb 17, 2026 10:33 am
Current Canucks 'management'
Madcombinepilot
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by Madcombinepilot » Tue Feb 17, 2026 10:44 am
Carl Yagro wrote: ↑ Tue Feb 17, 2026 10:00 am
I love it when people quote themselves to show they were right.
I try to do that every chance I get
I love it when people quote themselves to show they were right.
I try to do that every chance I get
+2
lol... ok, I should have said it better..
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donlever
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by donlever » Tue Feb 17, 2026 11:03 am
Nothing to do with being right.
Has to do with going through the effort of posting and the intel not being read/noticed/included in continuing discussions.
This is my biggest struggle here.
Whether to bother or not.
DeLevering since 1999.
JelloPuddingPop
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by JelloPuddingPop » Tue Feb 17, 2026 11:08 am
donlever wrote: ↑ Tue Feb 17, 2026 11:03 am
Nothing to do with being right.
Has to do with going through the effort of posting and the intel not being read/noticed/included in continuing discussions.
This is my biggest struggle here.
Whether to bother or not.
I can't imagine how that feels.
Jello: Sun Feb 15, 2026 9:54 am
Don "not about right" Lever: Sun Feb 15, 2026 10:30 am
donlever
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by donlever » Tue Feb 17, 2026 11:50 am
I was going to cut and paste your quote as well but the should I bother feeling got in the way so I didn't lol.
I figured you were good for chiming in to defend your place in the machine.
...and you did...so....win win.
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JelloPuddingPop
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by JelloPuddingPop » Tue Feb 17, 2026 1:16 pm
donlever wrote: ↑ Tue Feb 17, 2026 11:50 am
but the should I bother feeling got in the way so I didn't lol.
Buyers remorse Donny? Don't let Tops get you down - this place is awesome, even if the team sucks... it'll come around as the team does.
Conversation around here is always better during the winning times, just gotta hang on until then!
donlever
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by donlever » Tue Feb 17, 2026 1:22 pm
Oh, don't get me wrong....I'm neither down nor going anywhere.
And yes...this place is awesome...I don't just throw $$ at anything and everything as a rule.
I've made some promises to people I care about, both here and not, with respect to posting at the very least and I will abide by that.
I'm just talking about ROI versus effort.
The main reason I wrote the letter to AIG was this site.
Takes a lot of time and effort that.
Not sure what my calculable IRR is on it is all.
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JelloPuddingPop
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by JelloPuddingPop » Tue Feb 17, 2026 1:28 pm
Glad to hear it!
As for your IRR, lets ask Tsico. He seems to be the guy about that.
This place can answer all your questions, sometimes with poetry!
donlever
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by donlever » Tue Feb 17, 2026 1:29 pm
Lofl...touche.
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Carl Yagro
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by Carl Yagro » Tue Feb 17, 2026 1:43 pm
Well, I do enjoy quoting myself occasionally for the right reasons
EDIT: I'm here in a coffee shop, posting on CC and the old guy at the next table is suddenly blasting Air Supply on the phone speakers for all to hear
Making Love Out Of Nothing At All... like what we do everyday here in the Corner. Jeezus, muzak for monsters indeed.
"Look, I'm just a bitter old man, ok! "
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Heavy is the Tarp...
donlever
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by donlever » Tue Feb 17, 2026 1:45 pm
One of my biggest pet peeves.
It's about that time I play some NWA to drown him out....
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by Lancer » Tue Feb 17, 2026 1:49 pm
Relegation leads to stratification of the middle teams, with the only team movement being at the top and bottom between who wins and who gets relegated. Besides which, unless there's some new kind of revenue-sharing between teams I don't know how the clubs in the relegation zone can make a go of it when there is no guarantee of any broadcast-related revenue in whatever Div 2 league takes shape. It works in other leagues like they have in Europe, but they don't operate with salary caps and player movement is utterly different. I don't see American sports fans going for any changes that smack of Euro influence these days.
If we want to discourage tanking, as others have mentioned, you either weight the odds equally between non-playoff teams or weight them in favor of the mushy middle teams. The more I think about it, the more I think equal weighting of lottery odds might be the best tonic for tanking. What's the point of tanking if it confers you no advantage?
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