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[Per]

I don't think anyone has a problem with criminals being arrested and deported.

But I do think most people like rule of law.

When ICE raids homes and work places without a warrant from a judge, when they harass people in the street based on their looks or an accent, when they kidnap children on their way home from school, when they detain people without stating a reason for their arrest, when they deny their prisoners access to a lawyer or to inform their family of where they are, and when they kill people for seemingly no reason and then aren't tried in a court - that's not law enforcement, that's domestic terrorism.

https://www.reddit.com/r/minnesota/comm ... es_korean/

Do you really think all these Minnesotans are taking to the streets to protect violent criminals?
They are taking to the streets to protect their neighbours and coworkers.

As one should when a government revokes constitutional rights and resorts to tyrannical measures.

It is not the deportations per se that are the problem, it is the lack of due process.

When the Nazis came for the communists,
I kept quiet; I wasn't a communist.
When they came for the trade unionists, I kept quiet;
I wasn't a trade unionist.
When they locked up the social democrats, I kept quiet;
I wasn't a social democrat.
When they locked up the Jews, I kept quiet;
I wasn't a Jew.
When they came for me, there was no one left to protest.

Martin Niemöller, 1892-1984

(You often see various versions starting "First they came for..." but I think this is the English translation closest to the German original)

[JelloPuddingPop]

Do you really think all these Minnesotans are taking to the streets to protect violent criminals?
They are taking to the streets to protect their neighbours and coworkers.

Per nailed it right there.

And I'll add protecting their constitutional rights.

[Topper]

Just another old fashioned populist protectionist in a long history of old fashioned populist protectionists (why did Johnny come lately?)

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[5thhorseman]

If it's normal now for ICE to grab citizens and legal residents off the street and out of their cars, throwing them in to detention centres even if they have id, what's going to happen during the midterms? Is it unthinkable that ICE will be at polling stations where there are supposedly lots of illegals voting (ie blue districts) to grab them from the polling lines?

[dbr]

It's not only not unthinkable, people are talking about it now because the Trump admin are making overtures about doing it.

[5thhorseman]

Trump knows he's going to lose the midterms and be impeached again so he's not going to hold back. We are looking at a police state within 9 months, at least in the swing states.

Remember when the main issue was Trump not disclosing his tax returns? Good times.