Ownership and Management

[donlever]

Blame whatever GM you want and wax poetic about it until the end of time.

Our issue starts at ownership.

It does not matter who Senior Management is nor what their talents and capabilities may be, or how much money is available to them, if the guy who signs the cheques has a rope around their nuts.

See Dallas Cowboys post Jimmy Johnson era....

[Blob Mckenzie]

Totally agree. Fredo has to get his grubby paws in there all the time. Nothing will change until he does a 180, or new folks purchase the team.

[Chef Boi RD]

A dumb move for sure. Almost as dumb as trading for him and the gnome in the first place. All the tard had to do was wait one more year fir Eriksson, Beagle and Riussel's contracts to expire.

Benning was on a short leash at the time so I don't think he expected to have his job by the time those contracts expired. The Aquas should never have let him make this gamble. Short-sightedness all around.

Ya got to wonder how much rope Benning had with ownership, I don’t think much, in fact I think he was nothing more than a “front boss” a title given to pawns within a crime organization to throw the authorities off. The Aqualini run their business like the mob. For instance the FBI for the longest time thought Tony Fats Salerno was the boss of the Genovese crime family when it was the Chin Gigante the whole time after he took over from Vito Genovese. The Chin was considered the most powerful boss of all the families during his time, see what Sammy the Bull Gravano and Mike Franzese have to say about the Chin on their podcasts.

The Chicago Outfit took it a step further at confusing the public who was actually running things. After Ness took out Scarface Capone on tax evasion, Paul “The Waiter” Ricca took over the Outfit but the Feds thought the torch was handed to Frank “the enforcer” Nitti. It was Ricca’s show, he reigned supreme over the Chicago outfit for 50 years after Capone.

Later on as Ricca was winding it down he started giving more control to Tony “Batters” Accardo who was his 2nd in command. Tony got his “Batters” or “Bats” nickname from Capone after Tony bashed someone’s brains in with a baseball bat, it impressed Capone greatly. Sometimes Accardo was referred to as the Big Tuna.

Ricca and Batters felt they needed a front boss like Benning to take the attention away from them so they created the Outfits next and most famous “front boss” in Sam Giancana whom everyone thought was the boss, but wasn’t.

Eventually Ricca The Waiter and Batts Accardo decided to get rid of Giancana “make him go away” - a term in which Ricca became famous for saying when he wanted someone gone. They felt Giancana was enjoying the publicity and noteriety a little too much the way dingbat John Gotti enjoyed it. Gotti is considered to be the dumbest boss of all time.

Giancana was shot in the head multiple times in his basement kitchen while cooking sausages for the guest who killed him. Historians suggest it was Accardo who killed Giancana while others suggest it was Tony Spilotro who Joe Pesci played in Casino. Spilotro was another front boss for Batts and the Waiter, he was Ricca’s and Accardo’s man on the ground in Vegas. Batters eventually had had enough of Tony and had him removed, beat to death both him and his brother with bats in a cornfield, as we know, how much Batters loved his baseball, the way they were to be killed came at the orders of Batters, his “signature” on the hit as a reminder for everyone not to fuck with him and his reign on Vegas. The scene of Pesci getting his come uppance was pretty accurate representation.

Accardo eventually became the top dawg after Ricca basically retired, but hardly anyone knew it. Tony was considered to be one of the smartest mob bosses of all time. Never spent more than a couple days in prison. They would replace Giancana with Sam Battaglia - the next front boss, after Battaglia it was Joey “Doves” Aiuppa. Accardo basically lorded over Las Vegas, he was at the very top of the food chain all mob operations in Vegas but the Feds could never link him.

This is how the Aqualini’s operate, their Presidents and GM’s are mere front bosses. Eventually they had to make Benning go away , casting the blame on him, see Blobs posts about Elms, even the Aqualini’s have him fooled.

[Cousin Strawberry]

That's all well and good but don't these "families" demand success as foundational to their entire existence? Running the organization into the ground should land them in the river no?

[Chef Boi RD]

That's all well and good but don't these "families" demand success as foundational to their entire existence? Running the organization into the ground should land them in the river no?

That’s the million dollar question but win or lose, they seem to be doing well at the gait and in hospitality revenues, that is up until recently …we might start seeing more empty seats on the horizon with this tank phase, I mean, the team is pretty depressing to watch right now thanks to some of the most horrific management this city hasn’t seen since Jack Gordon.

The concern is, Vancouver doesn’t really support a loser like some other hockey markets do, maybe that’s because of ticket prices, nor sure. It will be interesting seeing how ownership acts over the next while. I think Rutherford will step down, leaving Allvin as the next front boss.

[Blob Mckenzie]

That's all well and good but don't these "families" demand success as foundational to their entire existence? Running the organization into the ground should land them in the river no?

That’s the million dollar question but win or lose, they seem to be doing well at the gait and in hospitality revenues, that is up until recently …we might start seeing more empty seats on the horizon with this tank phase, I mean, the team is pretty depressing to watch right now thanks to some of the most horrific management this city hasn’t seen since James Elmer Benning.

The concern is, Vancouver doesn’t really support a loser like some other hockey markets do, maybe that’s because of ticket prices, nor sure. It will be interesting seeing how ownership acts over the next while. I think Rutherford will step down, leaving Allvin as the next front boss.

[Chef Boi RD]

Blobbee, you’re very protective of Rutherford and Allvin, all kidding aside, they really have done a terrible job here. Awful in fact.

[Blob Mckenzie]

Blobbee, you’re very protective of Rutherford and Allvin, all kidding aside, they really have done a terrible job here. Awful in fact.

So did the fuckhead before them. I am all good to let this shit go but you constantly bait along with q few others and beg to get caved in. You did your best to make a shitsmear of the place for a decade. If you'd admit that the tard was a league wide joke and embarassment to the franchise, I'll lay off.

It's bad enough the trades and garbage top 10 picks Elmer made but you always gloss over the fact he hid like a weasel when shit went down.

1. Tampering charge- Stamkos and Pernell Karl. Idiot!!! Know the rules. The tard, according to a ton of sources offered up Tanev, Horvat and the 2016 pick for Pernell Karl.
2.Covid outbreak- He gets JT Miller to lobby to the league to adjust the schedule when the whole team was sick because he was too frightened to do so. Real leader.
3. Jake Virtanen sexually assaults some gal. Get Travis to deal with it. Real fucking leader.
4. "We wan out of time".... are you fucking serious? Lets guys like Tanev go and replaces them with junk.

He carried himself like a scrub and he was exposed.

I'm defensive of of the current crew. That's rich coming from you. You have licked Elmer up and down for 12 years.

I'm fine with punting the current crew but if you don't think $129 suit Elmo isn't the worst GM in the history of the team you are out to lunch.

[Chef Boi RD]

Dude, I’ve moved on from the Benning era, yes he was awful for various reason, no argument there, so was the goof previous to him for different reasons, couldn’t draft to save his life in 6 tired at it and completely shit the bed post season after 2011.

I swear to god 2011 was a curse to this organization, would’ve been better had Luongo not made that toe save against Chicago, all the run did was mask glaring holes regarding our post season capabilities.

Anyhow Hangry Pesci, get a snickers bar, I couldn’t care less about Benning and Gillis, you need to move on, I have. Time to start talking about the latest fuck show regime we are in the throes of, they’ve been pretty damn awful .

[Topper]

Bob Pulford is now available

[donlever]

[Madcombinepilot]

Totally agree. Fredo has to get his grubby paws in there all the time. Nothing will change until he does a 180, or new folks purchase the team.

this.

Doesn't matter who the GM or POHO is, nothing changes until ownership changes. So long as the wops think they know hockey, and players, and attitudes more than actual hockey experts, this team will continue suck.

As so long as league knows we are owned by the wops, we will continue to lose the maximum number of draft positions in the top 10 of drafts possible. The league hates the wops as much as we do and the fix will continue to be in for the draft.