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FA....oh another thing, Jim.... have you seen what happened to Charlie K?

JR..I'm aware of that situation, sir.

FA...well, we have microphones like that too...
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donlever wrote: Wed Nov 19, 2025 4:54 pm Believes and states in front of God, the media and the rest of the world are two entirely different things.

Comments like that sound more like FA public persona damage control to me than a legitimate rebuild tenet.

FA...yo Jimmy, presser today.

JR...yessir Mr. A, that I do.

FA....ok...make sure you let those media honks and our ever gullible fan base know that I told you a rebuild is within your sphere of possibilities and entirely up to you, free reign and all that right?!

JR...will do Mr. A.

FA...attaboy Jimmy.

...Rutherford goes to exit the room...

FA....oh Jim.

JR..yessir.

FA...you do understand the Aqualinis don't do rebuilds right, on your way out pass me some more of that Alfredo sauce wouldya...
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As you continue to remind us.
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donlever wrote: Wed Nov 19, 2025 5:44 pm As you continue to remind us.
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Lol.

Fair enough then.
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Chef Boi RD wrote: Wed Nov 19, 2025 5:46 pm I cannot escape the daily torment and therefore I must share it with the optimistics.
I'm finally able to feel empathy...
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Ahhh....the Dude has accomplished something.

Yet I have doubts he will abide....
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donlever wrote: Wed Nov 19, 2025 4:54 pm Believes and states in front of God, the media and the rest of the world are two entirely different things.

Comments like that sound more like FA public persona damage control to me than a legitimate rebuild tenet.
Back when Rutherford was hired, the optimistics on this board dared to hope that his reputation around the League would afford him too much heft -- or at least, too much self-respect -- for that kind of situation.

But your interpretation sounds very plausible. To be a Canucks fan is to be disappointed, I suppose.
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To be an anointed saviour in Vancouver is to be a disappointment - see ya Messier.
Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
Same goes for Rutherford soon.
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I asked Leo @ Google AI: :D
The assessment that the Canucks tend to favor a "short game" or short-term approach in team building is a common perception among fans and some analysts, though the current management officially states a desire for a balanced, long-term plan.

Key Aspects of the Canucks' Team Building Strategy

Tension Between Short and Long-Term Goals:

The current management, led by General Manager Patrik Allvin and President of Hockey Operations Jim Rutherford, claims a multi-year plan focused on sustainable success and building a strong prospect pipeline. However, the team has faced significant pressure from the fan base and, reportedly, ownership to achieve immediate success, which can force reactive, short-term decisions.

Trading Draft Picks:

A major point of criticism for both the current and previous management regimes has been the willingness to trade away high draft picks for players who can help the team "win now". For example, the team has frequently considered trading its first-round pick to acquire a needed top-six center, a move that sacrifices a long-term asset for an immediate need.

Focus on Acquiring Younger, Established NHL Players:

The strategy often involves acquiring relatively young, but already established, NHL players (around 26 years old or younger) via trade rather than relying purely on a full rebuild through the draft and development. This "retooling" approach aims to stay competitive without a prolonged losing period.

Prospect Development:

Despite the focus on immediate competitiveness, the organization has also put a new emphasis on a more intentional and personalized prospect development process to build organizational depth. They have seen success with some mid-to-late-round picks, suggesting an effort to build value from within the system where possible.

In summary, while management has a stated long-term philosophy, the actual team-building approach often appears as a constant navigation of the tension between building a sustainable future and making moves to be competitive in the immediate term.

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Page 2....nice release...he won't have that time and space in the show but nice to see regardless....

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It's not as slow a release as I've seen with some youngsters, and he did get it off pretty quickly. Off the draw? In that part of the ice, though? He'd be lucky if he had that kind of space. Happens, sometimes, though.
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I think we can add Tolopilo to our list of legit prospects
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Tolopilo is another goalie we probably shouldn’t lose, but probably will because of signing Lankinen to a NMC contract.
Lankinen is a good goalie, but not great, and you need great in this league. Giving a NMC to a good goalie is a mistake.
He should be traded this season for picks and prospects, but management overpaid and tied their own hands.
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Picker of Cherries wrote: Sun Dec 07, 2025 11:12 am Tolopilo is another goalie we probably shouldn’t lose, but probably will because of signing Lankinen to a NMC contract.
Lankinen is a good goalie, but not great, and you need great in this league. Giving a NMC to a good goalie is a mistake.
He should be traded this season for picks and prospects, but management overpaid and tied their own hands.
They shouldn't extend injury prone goalies either when there's another year left on their existing contract, but hey, that's how JR & PA roll.
With Demko already injured again and Patera looking not good Tolopilo is just what the Canucks need.
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