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theman wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 10:39 am It concerns me that if Rantanen did not bring back a 1st in his trade, Petey will not as well.
Rantanen shouldn’t have brought back a 1st AND Necas. Colorado is getting a player who is younger, still has 18 months left on his deal, and likely will have a similar upside to Rantanen when paired with MacKinnon.

If the upside is realized then the Avs also bought themselves 2 (projected) salary cap increases, along with the time to sort out Makar’s next contract, before having to cross a potentially expensive bridge with a winger asking for more than he’s worth.

I’m gonna say it right now…..Rantanen will see a 15-20 point drop off in Carolina with our Nate as his center.
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I really shouldn't, but the clickbait shit about Petey and JT are hitting new depths of idiotic weird.

https://www.hockeytraderumours.com/nhl- ... DtXw_xyL_A

Pettersson going to Ottawa for... Josh Norris?!? :rofl:

Pettersson for Stutzle? Maybe we're talking, then.
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Sushi is not going to replace Boeser's production this year or next
Who the frig is Sushi and why do you think Boeser's production can't be replaced at a much cheaper cost?

He's got 195 goals in 520 NHL games that needs replacing from the farm, other than the 40 he potted last season his season totals have been in the high teens and low 20's...

Not to mention the value of having Boesers contract $ to spend in other areas ...
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rikster wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 2:32 pm
Sushi is not going to replace Boeser's production this year or next
Who the frig is Sushi and why do you think Boeser's production can't be replaced at a much cheaper cost?

He's got 195 goals in 520 NHL games that needs replacing from the farm, other than the 40 he potted last season his season totals have been in the high teens and low 20's...

Not to mention the value of having Boesers contract $ to spend in other areas ...
I think sushi is Lekkerimaki aka Jonny Canuck Rik. That kid can certainly score goals, he can shoot it, and his ability to redirect pucks into the net is off the chart. :) https://x.com/abbycanucks/status/1883011898020622363

He just needs to get stronger imho.
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rikster wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 2:32 pm
Sushi is not going to replace Boeser's production this year or next
Who the frig is Sushi and why do you think Boeser's production can't be replaced at a much cheaper cost?

He's got 195 goals in 520 NHL games that needs replacing from the farm, other than the 40 he potted last season his season totals have been in the high teens and low 20's...

Not to mention the value of having Boesers contract $ to spend in other areas ...
Nobody is saying Boeser shouldn’t be replaced from the farm for cheaper. We’re saying he currently cannot be due to the dearth of top-6 NHL capable bodies.
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rikster wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 11:48 am The chosen one is Quinn, if anyone he is the one who would have influence or input into management's decision, not EP or Miller....
Yes, I think that is the key conversation for any upcoming roster (or coaching) decision: "Quinn, tell us what it would take to get you to re-sign here in '27, and we'll see if we can make that happen" (and make some hard-headed decisions if they can't).

I like to hope that someone in management has already had that conversation (or made some less direct attempt to acquire the answer), but there's no way we'd hear about it, or what QH's answer might have been.
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Ronning's Ghost wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 3:01 pm
rikster wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 11:48 am The chosen one is Quinn, if anyone he is the one who would have influence or input into management's decision, not EP or Miller....
Yes, I think that is the key conversation for any upcoming roster (or coaching) decision: "Quinn, tell us what it would take to get you to re-sign here in '27, and we'll see if we can make that happen" (and make some hard-headed decisions if they can't).

I like to hope that someone in management has already had that conversation (or made some less direct attempt to acquire the answer), but there's no way we'd hear about it, or what QH's answer might have been.
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I think sushi is Lekkerimaki aka Jonny Canuck Rik. That kid can certainly score goals, he can shoot it, and his ability to redirect pucks into the net is off the chart. :) https://x.com/abbycanucks/status/1883011898020622363

He just needs to get stronger imho.
Thanks Megatario, I thought maybe that's who he was refering to ...

Agree, his pedigree is much higher than Boesers and his stats much more impressive...

Also agree that he needs to get stronger, especially along the boards but an advantage he has over Boeser is that he is a much better skater...

And he won't be asked to play the bumper position...

For me, Raty is more like Boeser...both have some skating issues and Boeser has the better shot but Raty can fill in the bumper spot if JT and Boeser are moved...
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rikster wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 3:46 pm
I think sushi is Lekkerimaki aka Jonny Canuck Rik. That kid can certainly score goals, he can shoot it, and his ability to redirect pucks into the net is off the chart. :) https://x.com/abbycanucks/status/1883011898020622363

He just needs to get stronger imho.
Thanks Megatario, I thought maybe that's who he was refering to ...

Agree, his pedigree is much higher than Boesers and his stats much more impressive...

Also agree that he needs to get stronger, especially along the boards but an advantage he has over Boeser is that he is a much better skater...

And he won't be asked to play the bumper position...

For me, Raty is more like Boeser...both have some skating issues and Boeser has the better shot but Raty can fill in the bumper spot if JT and Boeser are moved...
Neither Raty nor Sushi are ready for regular top-6 NHL spots.

Greatest weakness of this organization is the lack of roster competition pushing for spots from the AHL. That’s been a consistent weakness since Edler, Bieksa, Burrows, and Kesler, graduated from the farm.
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Off season, Demko to the leaves where he can take Matt Murray's spot.
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Oooh. Low blow.
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Lancer wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 12:43 pm I really shouldn't, but the clickbait shit about Petey and JT are hitting new depths of idiotic weird.

https://www.hockeytraderumours.com/nhl- ... DtXw_xyL_A

Pettersson going to Ottawa for... Josh Norris?!? :rofl:

Pettersson for Stutzle? Maybe we're talking, then.
If the goal is keep Quinn Hughes, Norris is an understandable target. They're buds, played together at Michigan, etc.

Norris would be a good second line center. Good playmaking, good shot, good skater. Not sure about his play off the puck/defensively. He got a big contract, then got injured, missed a season and it seemed to set him back quite a bit. He's a bit overpaid, but very likely will seem less overpaid in future years as the cap increases -- and he may yet get closer the the points pace he was developing before the injury, when he looked like he may become a point a game guy. Frankly, he's been a better player over his career than Dylan Cozens....

Don't get me wrong. I don't think this makes any sense as a one for one. But as part of a deal where JT or Elias goes the other way? Its not a terrible target if you are resigned to not getting the best player in a deal. And Ottawa isn't a bad team to talk to. They may very well conclude their are one star away from fighting for a playoff spot to fighting for playoff success. In fact, it might be worth it for them to throw more chips into just making the playoffs. Its been a long time, and lots can look good when its been a long time....
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Re: Re-booted SKYO approved pipe dreams and trade ideas

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So, now that the Canucks have won two games in a row has Aquaman put a 'cease and desist' order to management regarding trades?


so I see the Canucks Prez is doing his best to drive up the value of JTM and Petey.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/ca ... sson-rift/
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theman wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2025 9:49 am So, now that the Canucks have won two games in a row has Aquaman put a 'cease and desist' order to management regarding trades?
If he has then clearly the communication channels between him and JR/PA are not working very well.
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“We’re talking about two of our top players. Certainly, our two best forwards. It can really be tough on a franchise — not only present but into the future — when you’re planning on peaking this team into a contending team and then you find out that’s not going to happen. Or at least it’s not going to happen with the group we have now. Then you have to put together a new plan.”
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Mëds wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2025 9:58 am
Jim Rutherford wrote: "I felt like for a long time that there was a solution here because everybody has worked on it, including the parties involved, But it only gets resolved for a short period of time and then it festers again and so it certainly appears like there’s not a good solution that would keep this group together.”
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It's getting harder and harder to be excited about this team (Other than Hughes)
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