Just Not ready

[Meds]

We need a loathing winkie for Mëds

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[5thhorseman]

I'd blame the job Mëds.

For what? Being miserable?

I’m not miserable. 5th just likes to intentionally miss things.

If he can’t see that a country in shambles has a direct effect on the economy, well I dunno what to say. If he can’t see that his comment that I quoted parallels his Liberal master’s, well I dunno what to say.

But “the dollar should be self correcting” sure sounds a lot like “the budget will balance itself”…..

I'm not missing anything, I'm trying to stay on point, which in this case was re UW's statement that from a layman's perspective the economy looks to be in shambles. I responded to UW and then Topper provided a direct response as he usually does, and I posted an opinion counter to his, which Jan lapped up.

You then went on a tangent talking about the country being in shambles which is fine but wasn't the original point being debated. I agree there's a lot about this country that's in shambles, but not necessarily the economy, at least by traditional metrics.

You then add in an ad hominem about my liberal masters, par for the course for you Mëds, even though I've never expressed any liking for Trudeau.

And yeah "the dollar should be self correcting” sounds a lot like “the budget will balance itself" but in reality they're not alike at all. Some economic forces are self-correcting but obviously our annual budget deficit is not and it's one of my gripes about govt as I've mentioned on this board several times in the past, so obviously I'm not trying to excuse or minimize it.

[Topper]

Low dollar may not hurt exporters or folks with root cellars but everyone else feels the pinch.

Then there is the record level of debt fueled by increasing deficits, a boosted civil service account for a massive portion of our employment numbers, an activist Supreme Court creating rights that are not within our Constitution and a government focused on messaging announcements than seeing projects through to timely and fiscal responsible conclusions.

But hey, Canada just bought a bunch of drones to secure the border ... from a Chinese company named from supplying the US due to security issues.

[5thhorseman]

What's the difference between:

the pinch Canadians experience due to a low dollar, and

the pinch Americans will feel when Trump slaps across the board tariffs on Canadian exports

Seems roughly the same, no? Yet one is done voluntarily.

[Topper]

Canadians will feel it everytime they buy groceries

[Chef Boi RD]

Against Doc, Toppers, Mëds, BCExpats and Levers beloved Trump, we must protect Canadian industry and Canadian workers, and Canada itself against this evil man And what that means is that we have to employ a strategy of mirroring; not escalating, but responding in kind.

[Meds]

Against Doc, Toppers, Mëds, BCExpats and Levers beloved Trump, we must protect Canadian industry and Canadian workers, and Canada itself. And what that means is that we have to employ a strategy of mirroring; not escalating, but responding in kind.

We won’t need to do much of anything.

Trump’s tariffs will cost US consumers billions of dollars.

I agree though, respond in kind as necessary.

[donlever]

It's hilarious when Dude throws me/us in the group of Trump lovers.

Ditto the Miner.

Ditto the Paramedic.

None of us have ever broadcast the sort of affinity for the individual to be categorized as such.

[BCExpat]

It's hilarious when Dude throws me/us in the group of Trump lovers.

Ditto the Miner.

Ditto the Paramedic.

None of us have ever broadcast the sort of affinity for the individual to be categorized as such.

Dude likes to throw shit around to see what sticks.

Supporting the right wing doesn't necessarily mean that I like Trump. Considering how completely insane the left wing is (both here and the USA), I support the right wing party, even if I think that a better leader could have been chosen. In spite of all his faults, Trump was still a much better choice than Harris.

[Chef Boi RD]

This doesn’t apply to the turncoats and traitors such as BCExpat, Doc, Mëds and Toppper etc., but all of us patriotic Canadians have a part to play in this. Here are some things regular Canadians can do to send the right message to President-elect Donald Trump and his ill-led followers.

If Americans wants to impose dramatic tariffs on Canadian products, then Canadians should stop buying American ones. We should cancel all vacations to the United States and visit other destinations instead, such as the Caribbean, Bermuda, or better still, somewhere in Canada. We should walk right past American retailers like Walmart and Costco when other options are available and look for “Made in Canada” tags, leaving those “Made in USA” products on store shelves. Finally, we should select the foods that our grandparents relied upon: apple juice rather than orange juice, blueberries and pears from Canada rather than from California. Garden centre greenhouses need to move quickly to grow fresh vegetables such as lettuce and peas

[5thhorseman]

Get real Dude, none of that is going to happen lol.

[donlever]

In spite of all his faults, Trump was still a much better choice than Harris.

Yeah, fully agree, as I have said numerous times the laat 12/16 years we had Dems in the WH.

Combined with the post Covid weirdisms (sic) the world has endured a reset and move (drag kicking and screaming) to center was needed regardless....

[Topper]

When Trump threatens 25% tariffs and Justin says it will wreck 50% of the Canadian economy, What action does Justin take?

He forms "Team Canada" that promises to impose export tariffs and export bans that will wreck the other 50% of the Canadian economy.

What does Danielle Smith do? She goes to Trump and to his various department heads to lay out the case against putting tariffs on Canadian goods highlighting the mutually beneficial agreements between Canada and the US.

Which position is the better negotiating tactic?

How does Trump deal with foes on issues? He makes a threat, sits down and discusses it with his opponent and comes to an agreement that allows both to save face. There is nothing new. He wrote a book about it.

The Team Canada bluff and bluster may sell well at home, but that isn't the way Trump operates. He like to be engaged. He's a narcissist who needs his ego stroked, but it also the way he deals with China, Russia, North Korea. He doesn't curl up in his comfort blanket and hide while point a finger and whining "bad man" over and over. He talks and engages. He learns his opponents position and come to a deal.

Anyways, as I relayed here a few months ago after watching and Elon interview where he was asked about tariffs, he noted they should not be immediate. Players need time to adjust their business to conform with the threat. In the case of manufacturing, that could mean moving production to the US. In terms of primary resources, that means developing US sources.

Word this morning it that position by Musk is the go to and a committee will be struck to look at trade with China and the US's continental partners.

[Chef Boi RD]

Get real Dude, none of that is going to happen lol.

Just work with me, the Canadian turncoats need to walk the plank!

[BCExpat]

Get real Dude, none of that is going to happen lol.

Just work with me, the Canadian turncoats need to walk the plank!

You're hilarious. You spew all this shit and in the mean time you are looking to abandon the country for Italy of all places. The hypocrisy is not lost on the rest of us.