Trade rumours & armchair pipe dreams 19-20 Sponsored by SKYO

[Carl Yagro]

Well deserved shots, boys.

JB is no UFA genius.

Hopefully, with the new pipeline of prospects, he won't need to go that route in the foreseeable future.

[Strangelove]

Hey, he had to convince those UFAs to get on board a rebuild.

Gotta pay extra for that and Jimmy has said as much...

[2Fingers]

Hey, he had to convince those UFAs to get on board a rebuild.

Gotta pay extra for that and Jimmy has said as much...

This is true and everyone put up your hand if you thought 2 years ago we would have EP and QH playing like they are.

I am sure JB would like a do over on a couple deals if he could.

On LE - I still say this was all ownership forcing him to do it.

[Richardstroker69]

Who here thinks we should chase after josh Manson in the offseason if Tanev doesn’t re sign? I think he’d be a perfect partner for Quinn.

[Strangelove]

Who here thinks we should chase after josh Manson in the offseason if Tanev doesn’t re sign? I think he’d be a perfect partner for Quinn.

I can't see the Ducks trading him though...

[Cousin Strawberry]

Who here thinks we should chase after josh Manson in the offseason if Tanev doesn’t re sign? I think he’d be a perfect partner for Quinn.

Fuck ya would he ever.

[Meds]

Lol at Mëds bringing up contracts signed a few years ago.

I know right. Back when there was no Covid and the future of revenues was bright and promising.

The closest comparables were 2 years ago (Kuznetsov) and last year (Aho) there Doyle.

[Meds]

I'm sure the GMs and owners will point to the current financial situation during any negotiations in the next few years.

The NHLPA and agents will recognize this but don't expect to have top-end, franchise players (for their respective teams) to take huge cuts. Maybe in term? but who knows? I certainly can't say what's going to happen when Petey and Hughes are ready for their next contracts.

But like Blob says, you can't make comparisons on future contracts with older contracts. Market value, market demands (especially local ones) change. A lot of it has to do with timing. It's not what a player's perceived current value is against his peers as defined by what fans think.

Much of it will also be organizations gauging future value and output that will define the floor/ceiling of both parties to negotiate with.

The thing with the Canucks situation is that there was opportunity for both EP & Hughes to seize #1 roles immediately from Day 1. Opportunity and because their talent justified it. So, that's also a plus for negotiations.

There's no way McDavid is contractually twice the player as Mckinnon, who is widely regarded as possibly the second best player in the world. How many contracts already surpass Mckinnon's? How many more will from lesser players?

Thems the breaks in a "free" market. That being said, I would be estatic if both can be signed long term on discounted contracts. Hope they channel their inner Sedins to give the team a solid.

MacKinnon signed his current deal after 3 seasons where he never punched above a 64 point pace. McDavid came in and scored at a point per game pace as a rookie and then set the league on fire in his second season.....hasn't slowed down since.

MacKinnon is actually a good example as to why I think Petey should NOT get the big payday right now. You get paid for what you've done, with a bit of cheddar on top for speculation and potential.

[Meds]

Lol at Mëds bringing up contracts signed a few years ago.

Aho - signed July 1 2019 when the cap was 81.5 mil.
Kuznetsov - signed in 2017 when the cap was 75 mil - so a <10% increase.
Carlson - signed July 2018 with a 79.5 cap, so <3% increase.

I’m more referring to the guys he brought up in his previous post like Scheifele, Lindholm, Barkov, Monahan, Nuge etc.

If you're noticing that then you'll also note that I said I'd give him $2M more than most of those guys.

[Mickey107]

Who here thinks we should chase after josh Manson in the offseason if Tanev doesn’t re sign? I think he’d be a perfect partner for Quinn.

Fuck ya would he ever.

Only if Chris moves on. I don't think he will. Manson's price is set for a couple more years at 4.1 so that's an OK thing. " If Chris doesn't resign."
Manson had an off year. Damn. How about if Stecher doesn't re-sign get an offer?

[Chef Boi RD]

Who here thinks we should chase after josh Manson in the offseason if Tanev doesn’t re sign? I think he’d be a perfect partner for Quinn.

Doyle had life size posters of Dave Manson and Ryan Clowe on his bedroom wall. He’d be thrilled to bits with Josh in a Canuck uni

[Richardstroker69]

Who here thinks we should chase after josh Manson in the offseason if Tanev doesn’t re sign? I think he’d be a perfect partner for Quinn.

I can't see the Ducks trading him though...

I’d be down to send them our 2021 first and a prospect not named podkolzin.

[2Fingers]

Who here thinks we should chase after josh Manson in the offseason if Tanev doesn’t re sign? I think he’d be a perfect partner for Quinn.

I can't see the Ducks trading him though...

I’d be down to send them our 2021 first and a prospect not named podkolzin.

So we are going to send a 1st and a top end prospect for someone who 28 and turning 29 in October and making $4.1M for only 1 year and then a UFA when the reason we cannot sign Tanev is because we may not be able to afford what he is asking? Unless Tanev is asking for $6M then keep our picks and prospects and resign Tanev even if he costs $4.5M.

If Tanev walks then again do not trade any top pick/prospect for someone who is 28 years old, get a UFA is a defensive defenceman.

[Richardstroker69]

Who here thinks we should chase after josh Manson in the offseason if Tanev doesn’t re sign? I think he’d be a perfect partner for Quinn.

I can't see the Ducks trading him though...

I’d be down to send them our 2021 first and a prospect not named podkolzin.

So we are going to send a 1st and a top end prospect for someone who 28 and turning 29 in October and making $4.1M for only 1 year and then a UFA when the reason we cannot sign Tanev is because we may not be able to afford what he is asking? Unless Tanev is asking for $6M then keep our picks and prospects and resign Tanev even if he costs $4.5M.

If Tanev walks then again do not trade any top pick/prospect for someone who is 28 years old, get a UFA is a defensive defenceman.

What ufa defenceman brings what josh Manson brings? And 28 is more than fine for a dman. Plus a first and a prospect is pretty cheap for a top 4 rhd.

[ESQ]

If Tanev leaves, the UFA replacement is much cheaper - defensive D, 18-20 minutes, kills penalties, no offence required.

If Stecher leaves, it's even easier to replace as a UFA: 15/16 min, no offence, decent PK and very little else.

Both of those theoretical replacements are 2nd and 3rd tier UFAs, getting us out of the July 1 silliness.

Also, the opportunity for a UFA RD to play with Hughes on a one-year, show-me deal, could entice a decent ufa to go for the big money contract next year.