British Columbia Pipeline Thread

[Chef Boi RD]

Interesting article. Is Eby shitting this province up?

‘Thursday she tried to put the first helping of blame on “unjust and unpredictable trade policies,” originating from Donald Trump’s America.

But a comparison of this year’s books with the results from three years ago shows that the main perpetrator of B.C.’s fiscal fiasco is a fellow named David Eby.’

https://vancouversun.com/opinion/column ... vid-eby-is

[rats19]

There is no doubt dude!

[Chef Boi RD]

Is Green Party leader Elizabeth May out of her mind saying oil tankers cannot navigate the Hecate Straight claiming it’s too dangerous? She’s been hootin’ and hollerin’ on social media regarding the perils of oil tankers coming into this area. Chef ain’t no marine shipping lane expert, curious what others think.

https://thehub.ca/2025/11/25/fact-check ... nt-add-up/

Btw, Chef is on board with the Alberta pipeline proposal. Let’s do this, ffs

[donlever]

Fuck 'em all.

...and the horses they rode in on.

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[Cousin Strawberry]

The crews of tankers and freighters have been known to jump overboard and swim ashore when they cut through the Gulf Islands during high winds Donny. Do you have a woodpile they can hide in at your new spread?

[Chef Boi RD]

Seriously though is it treacherous shit for oil tankers to be making regular pickups in the Hecate Strait? Does fear mongerer Elizabeth May have a point?

[Cousin Strawberry]

Seriously though is it treacherous shit for oil tankers to be making regular pickups in the Hecate Strait? Does fear mongerer Elizabeth May have a point?

That coal terminal next to the Tsawassen ferry terminal is the great hypocrisy BC is neglecting to mention in regards to contributing to supposed global warming. Isn't it the busiest coal terminal on the west coast of the Americas or close to it? Dude there are huge bulk carriers constantly floating around those straights with next to no incidents. They are pretty calm seas in comparison to other places they may travel such as the straights between Australia and PNG...which they all routinely navigate without incident.

The Indians and Eby's are only resisting because the compensation isn't sufficient enough yet.

Sleazy fucking scheisters pretending it's for the better good of man. What a load

[Chef Boi RD]

I’ve actually never been to that area the north tip of the Haida Gwaii but the way Elizabeth May describes the waters as being the fourth dangerous in the world” I am left to wonder. Is she correct about the 10 to 30 meter swells exposing tankers to “bottoming” out?

[Cousin Strawberry]

Lizzy May needs to head over to Donald's for some sherry and oysters then forget all this eco-nonsense. Retire from bothering humanity already! She's extremely disingenuous about all this

[donlever]

...that cunt ain't coming no where near me.

I recently had about 40 trees taken down on my lot.

I'm the Island pariah....

[Cornuck]

...that cunt ain't coming no where near me.

I recently had about 40 trees taken down on my lot.

I'm the Island pariah....

Donnie looking down on all his neighbours from his giant porch / helipad: "Boy - that clearcut really helps the view!"

[Tciso]

I’ve actually never been to that area the north tip of the Haida Gwaii but the way Elizabeth May describes the waters as being the fourth dangerous in the world” I am left to wonder. Is she correct about the 10 to 30 meter swells exposing tankers to “bottoming” out?

I'd call bullshit on that claim. I am not saying there has never been a wave that big recorded in whatever specific spot she is talking about, but, we do have pretty good ideas of what the weather is going to be hour by hour. There's no reason for a tanker to be out in that weather, on the very off chance it occurs.

The Exxon Valdez was '89. Since then, we have made vast improvements in our tankers. All double hulled. bigger and more stable. Way better GPS/Sonar/Electronics in general. Better tug boats. Better drug/alcohol testing for the crew. E-bay and May are just fear mongering.

[Ronning's Ghost]

This topic is a good indication of how being a Canuck fan damages the psyche. Canucks fans who want a pipeline think its all a political dog and pony show, and a pipeline will never get built. Canuck fan who does not want a pipeline is convinced it will.

Elizabeth May describes the waters as being the fourth dangerous in the world” I am left to wonder. Is she correct about the 10 to 30 meter swells exposing tankers to “bottoming” out?

As so often has been the case lately, once the conclusions have political consequences, the raw facts get harder to find a consensus upon. Here's a corroborating source:
https://islandsocialtrends.ca/premier-e ... -pipeline/

But it wouldn't be hard to find others disputing that characterization.

we do have pretty good ideas of what the weather is going to be hour by hour. There's no reason for a tanker to be out in that weather, on the very off chance it occurs.

So we can all relax, because no company ever put profit before safety -- especially environmental safety.

The Exxon Valdez was '89.

And yet, Prince William Sound still isn't oil free, casting doubt on spill recovery technology. And bitumen is harder to clean up than Alaska North Slope.

Since then, we have made vast improvements in our tankers. All double hulled. bigger and more stable. Way better GPS/Sonar/Electronics in general. Better tug boats. Better drug/alcohol testing for the crew. E-bay and May are just fear mongering.

Fortunately, there is what I consider to be a great test of both the safety of and the business case for this project.

Amongst the objections to this project is that if there is a spill, B.C. will be on the hook for the costs of the (largely futile) clean-up attempts, while Alberta made most of the money.

[your dimwit brother-in-law wants you to invest in his business plan. If it works, he'll be rich ! But if it crashes and burns, you're the one out the investment.]

One way of addressing this inequity would be to compel someone within the reach of the Canadian legal system, such as a pipeline company, or the Province of Alberta (not a flag-of-convenience shipping company) to carry an insurance policy (with a qualified underwriter also within reach of the Canadian legal system) that would cover the costs of the best clean-up effort that could be made on the worst oil spill that could occur.

If that insurance company -- a third-party, private-sector business with no political stake in the outcome -- agreed that the risk was small, then the premiums would also be small, and no impediment to the operation of the pipeline business. But if the premiums were large, that would contradict your characterization of the risks involved, and the pipeline proponents' assessment of the risk / return ratio calculation of the entire project.

[Tciso]

Instead of insurance (high premiums, and the insurance company probably goes bankrupt if they have to pay), how about the government add an extra catastrophic accident tax to the whole process?

[5thhorseman]

Interesting article. Is Eby shitting this province up?

‘Thursday she tried to put the first helping of blame on “unjust and unpredictable trade policies,” originating from Donald Trump’s America.

But a comparison of this year’s books with the results from three years ago shows that the main perpetrator of B.C.’s fiscal fiasco is a fellow named David Eby.’

https://vancouversun.com/opinion/column ... vid-eby-is

Interesting, yes, but lacking detail. He compares the debt and deficit figures over the last three years, but says nothing about what it was all spent on (or what revenues decreased). He just blames Eby. Why not provide the detail and let the reader decide. It's an article for sheeple.