The Hypothetical Arm-Chair Retool.

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If you are re-tooling on the fly to right sort out the mix and fix the mess, who are you shopping?

Miller
18
23%
Pettersson
10
13%
Boeser
15
19%
Hoglander
12
15%
Hronek
2
3%
Myers
6
8%
Soucy
5
6%
Demko
10
13%
Lekkerimaki
0
No votes
Willander
0
No votes
 
Total votes: 78

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The rumoured NYR deal was Chytil, Lindgren and a Conditional 1st for JTM. At least that was the core of the deal, if rumours are to be believed, it fell apart negotiating the conditions of the 1st.
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theman wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2025 8:26 am The rumoured NYR deal was Chytil, Lindgren and a Conditional 1st for JTM. At least that was the core of the deal, if rumours are to be believed, it fell apart negotiating the conditions of the 1st.
Yeah, I knew I wasn’t gonna be thrilled. That’s a watered down shittier return than the Horvat trade
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Chef Boi RD wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2025 8:54 am Yeah, I knew I wasn’t gonna be thrilled. That’s a watered down shittier return than the Horvat trade
It ain't bottom of the Nile bad, but pretty damn close. Should be fun watching all the crybabies thinking we'd get the moon for an asset that's had ?s around them every time there's a lick of adversity.
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Argay Ham wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2025 9:26 am
Chef Boi RD wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2025 8:54 am Yeah, I knew I wasn’t gonna be thrilled. That’s a watered down shittier return than the Horvat trade
It ain't bottom of the Nile bad, but pretty damn close. Should be fun watching all the crybabies thinking we'd get the moon for an asset that's had ?s around them every time there's a lick of adversity.
Yeah, not looking good. Nevermind the bums coming back if that 1st is protected or packed with terms, it’s super bad. Rogers will chanting “Fire Allvin!”
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Good thing they balked at the deal. Hot garbage, really. I would say Drury thought he could pull one over on an Allvin under pressure to get resolution on whatever's going on in the room. Then again, if they were quibbling about conditions on the 1st round pick that would tell me that management thought Chytil and Lindgren was a suitable return. Either they value Lindgren and Chytil WAAAAY more than any of us here, or that was the best deal on offer at the time. Neither is confidence-inducing.

Sometimes the best move is the one you don't make. Maybe it's aspirational, but I'm going to put some faith in the position that this drama will subside and be resolved. Once folks know there is no easy way out for any of them - the principal players and the coaching staff - they will iron shit out. This team is better with Miller and Pettersson ironing their shit out and shaping up, than what it would be if they were traded - and this latest rumor would confirm that.

Will it happen in time to salvage the season? We have until the trade deadline to find out.
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Lancer wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2025 11:07 am Good thing they balked at the deal. Hot garbage, really. I would say Drury thought he could pull one over on an Allvin under pressure to get resolution on whatever's going on in the room. Then again, if they were quibbling about conditions on the 1st round pick that would tell me that management thought Chytil and Lindgren was a suitable return. Either they value Lindgren and Chytil WAAAAY more than any of us here, or that was the best deal on offer at the time. Neither is confidence-inducing.

Sometimes the best move is the one you don't make. Maybe it's aspirational, but I'm going to put some faith in the position that this drama will subside and be resolved. Once folks know there is no easy way out for any of them - the principal players and the coaching staff - they will iron shit out. This team is better with Miller and Pettersson ironing their shit out and shaping up, than what it would be if they were traded - and this latest rumor would confirm that.

Will it happen in time to salvage the season? We have until the trade deadline to find out.
Lindgren (American) is a UFA this summer, lol. How in the fuck is he a good deal for us?
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Chef Boi RD wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2025 11:59 am
Lancer wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2025 11:07 am Good thing they balked at the deal. Hot garbage, really. I would say Drury thought he could pull one over on an Allvin under pressure to get resolution on whatever's going on in the room. Then again, if they were quibbling about conditions on the 1st round pick that would tell me that management thought Chytil and Lindgren was a suitable return. Either they value Lindgren and Chytil WAAAAY more than any of us here, or that was the best deal on offer at the time. Neither is confidence-inducing.

Sometimes the best move is the one you don't make. Maybe it's aspirational, but I'm going to put some faith in the position that this drama will subside and be resolved. Once folks know there is no easy way out for any of them - the principal players and the coaching staff - they will iron shit out. This team is better with Miller and Pettersson ironing their shit out and shaping up, than what it would be if they were traded - and this latest rumor would confirm that.

Will it happen in time to salvage the season? We have until the trade deadline to find out.
Lindgren (American) is a UFA this summer, lol. How in the fuck is he a good deal for us?
Ummm Chef, Lancer didn’t say he was a good deal for us…..just the opposite in fact.
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You’re right, Chef needs to step that one back, sorry, Lancer…blame the Mëds for me going off the rails.
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Chef Boi RD wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2025 1:44 pm You’re right, Chef needs to step that one back, sorry, Lancer…blame the Mëds for me going off the rails.
No worries. Gotta admit I was scratching my head there for a sec. :lol: Mëds’ Petey derangement can be contagious.

Unless a bidding war erupts and the return becomes a deal Allvin can’t refuse, sit them all in a room, lock the door and tell them no one is coming out till they hash it out. ;)
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Kenji wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2025 11:13 pm All of the conventional wisdom is about age, but I think maybe the whole thing is about Hughes. This year ok, not, it's McDavid and Drai, but next...? After that he is a free agent again, so, what do they do. Maybe THIS is peak Hughes and thus, you build your Cup team around that. Tank this year, if you must. but get the assets together for a serious run next year. That's pretty fast. Need to decide if Tocchet is in or out, and about your players, maybe you move Pettersson!
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Take this with a gigantic grain of salt, a rumoured Carolina package is:
According to @coreypronman, he thinks the Hurricanes could give up a top prospect + assets for J.T. Miller. The trade in question would look like:

#RaiseUp  Receive:

- JT Miller

#Canucks  Receive:

- Jesperi Kotkaniemi
- Nikita Artamonov
- 2025 1st
- 2026 2nd
https://x.com/onetruezach/status/188175 ... s1igZokqEQ

Apparently Artamonov is supposed to be a top forward prospect but two things would concern me with this, potential, trade:

1. It would be giving up this season, most likely, so would our other top players be fine with this.
2. Tocchet doesn’t strike me as someone who works well with Russian players, especially forwards, would he still be a good fit as coach for this group.
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theman wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 1:14 pm Take this with a gigantic grain of salt, a rumoured Carolina package is:
According to @coreypronman, he thinks the Hurricanes could give up a top prospect + assets for J.T. Miller. The trade in question would look like:

#RaiseUp  Receive:

- JT Miller

#Canucks  Receive:

- Jesperi Kotkaniemi
- Nikita Artamonov
- 2025 1st
- 2026 2nd
https://x.com/onetruezach/status/188175 ... s1igZokqEQ

Apparently Artamonov is supposed to be a top forward prospect but two things would concern me with this, potential, trade:

1. It would be giving up this season, most likely, so would our other top players be fine with this.
2. Tocchet doesn’t strike me as someone who works well with Russian players, especially forwards, would he still be a good fit as coach for this group.
Russians are just way too much of an unknown commodity.

Giving up a known stud for a possible bust? Pass.
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No need to make a move like that and give up on this season unless they fall completely out of the playoffs. Better to see how this team does this season with Miller and make a trade in the off-season.
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Picker of Cherries wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 3:11 pm No need to make a move like that and give up on this season unless they fall completely out of the playoffs. Better to see how this team does this season with Miller and make a trade in the off-season.
Agreed, and such a horrible offer!

Would this mean Carolina has identified Miller as a "jerk"?

But yeah, fuck these lowball offers...
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