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Indeed it would be.JelloPuddingPop wrote: ↑Mon Dec 23, 2024 7:39 pm He can be a Malkin, Rantonen, or German. That's OK too.
Yeah...as I've said many times...I really hope to be wrong on this one.
Mëds was a massive Benning fan along with most of the board. They didn't utter a peep about how Elmo ran the cap or the hideous acquisition of OEL that cost this team to get rid of the piece of shit. Now the team is competitive and a youngish player who has a ppg average over his career is playing at a 9 million level and is atm perhaps 2.6 million overpaid while easily outplaying his previous contracts... he's 30 games into this contract and he's getting buried.JelloPuddingPop wrote: ↑Mon Dec 23, 2024 7:39 pmAgain, good post Mëds. And yes, I agree with most of what you say. It's concerning for sure - but there isn't much we as fans can do - other than hope we see 2 of 7 Petey going forward. But he is still contributing, defensively, getting the puck up ice etc.Mëds wrote: ↑Mon Dec 23, 2024 7:09 pmAll banter aside, his referencing of $11.6M is apt.JelloPuddingPop wrote: ↑Mon Dec 23, 2024 6:30 pmSorry Donny, remind me again how many games you've seen since Petey signed his 11.6?
If I look at the entirety of his career, as you suggested, he has been the Canucks' best forward (statistically) in 2 of his 6 seasons.....2 of 7 if you count this year. Those two times were his rookie season and the 2022-23 campaign.
Another stat from his entire career is that in only a pair of seasons, 2022-23 and 2023-24, has he scored at 1.0 PPG or better.
The inconsistency is the one true consistency for Pettersson.
Outside of 2022-23, Pettersson has never been a player that commands the salary he was given. My overall loathing, as you like to call it, is not directed towards the player himself, it is directed towards the assessment that rose goggled fanboys and local media swooner's have of the player in question.
My unbiased take on Pettersson is that he does indeed possess the chops to be a top-line centerman, although an inconsistent one. You will have flashes of top-5 in the league scoring and then periods of time where he is completely invisible. When you average it out you have a guy who you can count on to produce at a career pace of roughly 1.0 PPG, but you will never know which player is showing up on any given night, and you need to be ready to win with negligible production from him for stretches of 4 or more games at a time multiple times during a season, and possibly (50% of the time so far) in the playoffs as well.
He doesn't have the physical speed to create his own space with the puck for chances or to draw defenders to himself and then hit an open linemate, and he doesn't have the size/strength to accomplish the same thing by protecting the puck from a defender and make a play.
His hockey IQ is very high, even his defensive awareness would probably have him in the Selke conversation on a regular basis if he was able to add some physicality and win faceoffs. But the inconsistency is the problem.
I would happily have Petterson for $8.5M per year. It would mean that instead of a linemate like Jake DeBrusk for $5.5M, you have Petey playing with Sam Reinhart, Miika Zibanejad, or Filip Forsberg, for $8.5M. Now teams can't cheat to one guy the same way and perhaps you see consistency creep into Petterson's game and the team has a player on a bargain contract.....which almost every team that has won the Cup has been able to boast of having.
Teams can win with a superstar carrying them, yes. But they are few and far between, and they can do that because those elite, franchise-type, players always produce regardless of their linemates. Even in his 102 point breakout season there was never a moment where Pettersson looked like he was in that category of McDavid, Crosby, MacKinnon.
The problem with Pettersson is indeed the $11.6M......because he held out for it, and because management gave it to him.
He has never been in the company you mentioned. But he doesn't have to be. He can be a Malkin, Rantonen, or German. That's OK too.
Thanks for taking the time and thoughts here - I appreciate it. And I'm not a Petey Fanboy for the record. I'm a Canucks fan. Have been for decades, win or lose. Optimism is a part of my life. And I believe. Why watch if you don't?
I might be dreaming on it, he’s hands down the best D-prospect not in the NHL but I wonder if Carolina is getting impatient on trying to get him out of KHL? But I agree, Carolina would be dumb to trade him.
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" The CBJ one? Yeah it’s a messCarl Yagro wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2025 2:49 pm Even SKYO would not approve of that trade pipe dream.
Try harder, Dude.
