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Topper wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 2:34 pm New high resolution imagery of the Chilcotin land slide released Friday afternoon. they side window has dot you can click on for a variety of viewpoints of the slide.

https://projects.spexigeo.com/8274e734- ... anoIndex=0
Any idea what caused the slide? I've seen some posts about a combination of bad forestry practices above the slide area, combined with recent heavy rains, but looking at the images there's not much forest, mostly grassland
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5thhorseman wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2024 1:52 pm
Topper wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 2:34 pm New high resolution imagery of the Chilcotin land slide released Friday afternoon. they side window has dot you can click on for a variety of viewpoints of the slide.

https://projects.spexigeo.com/8274e734- ... anoIndex=0
Any idea what caused the slide? I've seen some posts about a combination of bad forestry practices above the slide area, combined with recent heavy rains, but looking at the images there's not much forest, mostly grassland
Historically, much of the Chilcotin has been grasslands. A colleague did forest and range work in the area for the Prov Government and has a story of a aboriginal elder telling him the entire area was grasslands when he was a boy (would have been early 1900's). Road building for agriculture and forestry have provided fire breaks for trees to encroach. There are traditional pockets of Douglas Fir.

The plateau area just above the slide is at 4000' and near desert conditions. A very unique area of BC.

CBC did an interview with Chief Joe Alplhonse of the Williams Lake Band who noted the traditional aboriginal name for the area translates to "Place of Many Slides." It you look on Google Earth, you can see several crescent shaped scarps from previous slides above and on either side of the recent slide.

I read a report that much of the current material is limestone blocks from historical slides. Geologically the area is underlain by Triassic (200-250 million year old) limestone and the hill tops capped with very young basalt. The last significant slide in the area was 1960.

Yes the forest there has been devastated, first by pine beetle and then that dry fuel went up in fires roughly 7 years ago. Pine beetle is endemic so beetle kill fire is a natural progression. They had a very prolonged dry spell followed by eight days of rain. That could well have been the trigger mechanism.

As much as folks are looking for a human factor to blame, logging, reforestation or climate change, I'd say this is very much a natural and common occurrence for the area.

If you pay attention driving Kamloops to Cache Creek and up to Clinton or down to Spences Bridge, you'll see the hillside have very narrow dry gullies and massive fan deposits out into the Thompson and Bonaparte valleys. These fans aren't water lain by streams, they form from massive debris flows. Not long ago ther were several after a prolonged wet season between Cache Creek and Kamloops. Infamously a woman went missing along the hwy in an old British sports car (TR3 comes to mind but maybe not). They found her and the car burried in a debris flow when they cleared the hwy.
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This makes perfect sense Tops but we all know the sleazebag politicians will grab onto the attention it garners to rant and rave over dependant upon which agenda they're following.

PP will claim Turdo triggered the collapse with his 17th fly in vacation to the area, Turdo will claim it was white conservative voting hillbillies and their ATVs
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^^that's hilarious :lol:
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Continued great posting on the Chilcotin Topper.

Appreciate the educated intel.
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Topper…. Why didn’t they bow the land damn before too much water backed up?
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rats19 wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2024 7:55 pm Topper…. Why didn’t they bow the land damn before too much water backed up?
Probably loosely consolidated or saturated. Like dynamiting jello. It is also mapped as 1km long.

A story on the dam failure modeling released today of worst and best case scenarios.

https://www.trailtimes.ca/news/worst-ca ... er-7470483

and some new photos today

https://projects.spexigeo.com/8274e734- ... yL-FiQgJM4
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I don't know if anyone is interested in this but...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcYKBERvW7A

Someone is betting HUGELY on silver prices going through the roof over the next few weeks.

Based in theory upon tensions in the Middle East and such.

This guy is good by the way.

Of course, if whomever is right, this could be whomever watching their silver rise...

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Up date today from a Williams Lake Band member.

Slide is still active, more material came down from the headwall last night. Large cracks opening from the slide, parallel to the river extending upstream. Rising water just starting an over topping incursion around where the previous channel was.

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Strangelove wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2024 9:09 pm .
I don't know if anyone is interested in this but...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcYKBERvW7A

Someone is betting HUGELY on silver prices going through the roof over the next few weeks.

Based in theory upon tensions in the Middle East and such.

This guy is good by the way.

Of course, if whomever is right, this could be whomever watching their silver rise...

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https://www.foxnews.com/world/israel-pr ... -unnerving

"Israel prepares for Iran attack amid warnings that regime is close to having nuclear weapon"

Yeah, that whomever chap is smiling right now.

Gambled $200K on a longshot bet that could yield $33M.

Some rich dude with inside information, kiss you butts farewell...
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It’s the end of the world as we know it. Thanks for the play by play, Topper
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