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Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)
This isn't just about Bettman/Daly/Burke et al getting even with Gillis, this effects a handful of teams. Detroit, LA (Philly), Montreal (Nashville), Minnesota, and Chicago.
Zetterberg, Franzen, Carter/Richards, Weber, Suter/Parise, Hossa/Keith
Heck, you can go right back to Mad Mike signing Rick Dipietro 15 years ago. While not a cap dodging move per se, but you don't think that deal miffed a few exec's throughout the league?
Gillis made a number of poor plays over the years, but today's news doesn't land on his shoulders.
Zetterberg, Franzen, Carter/Richards, Weber, Suter/Parise, Hossa/Keith
Heck, you can go right back to Mad Mike signing Rick Dipietro 15 years ago. While not a cap dodging move per se, but you don't think that deal miffed a few exec's throughout the league?
Gillis made a number of poor plays over the years, but today's news doesn't land on his shoulders.
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)
Trading Eriksson (hard to do) and Tanev (easy to do if willing to accept a less than stellar return) would also make a ton of space.Diehard1 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 26, 2019 12:34 pmNo need to buy either out - drop them into the minors and you save almost the same amount of cap space, but the contracts are only on the books for 1 year instead of 2.givemeda411 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:44 am Myers isn't out of the question.
Buying out Spooner gives us an extra $2M in cap space
Buying out Schaller gives us an extra $1M in cap space
Jim could give Boeser $8.5M, Myers $6M, also sign Gardiner for $7M, extend Goldobin for $1M, re-up Schenn for $1.5M, and still have almost $7M to play with. Now factor in Lou's recapture and it's still a $4M cushion. I'm not saying do it, I'm just saying that it's doable with a few roster changes. Oh and my capfriendly.com scenario included taking back $2M in cap space on a Tanev trade. So if you can move Tanev for a pick and a prospect then it's even more room to breathe.
By the time Hughes and Petey need new deals, Edler, Sutter, Pearson, and Baertschi, are all off the books. That's a total of $15M gone. Markstrom, Spooner, Schaller, Stecher, and Biega, are all going to be done this year. That's another $11.5M clear.
Granted they all need to be replaced, but some of them can be replaced for much cheaper, and more productivity, than what we currently see.
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)
Haula to Carolina for Nicolas Roy and a 5th rounder.
Roy is (IMO) a decent prospect. Chances are equal that he'll peak as an indistinguishable bubble guy that is exposed to waivers eventually or that he wil become a solid middle 6 forward. Definitely a better-than-average 4th round pick.
Haula is on a good contract (under $3 million) for his overall skill. But he's coming off injury, not a spring chicken, and the deal is done at the end of the year.
I'd say a good deal for both teams (given that Vegas needs to move guys out). But Vegas needs to move more. They have a huge set of contracts that are neither millstones nor great deals. The worst in Pacioretty, in my view, but he's still a good player (might be worth $7m for the next couple seasons, but term is longer). Moving players shouldn't be too hard for them at the end of the day.
Roy is (IMO) a decent prospect. Chances are equal that he'll peak as an indistinguishable bubble guy that is exposed to waivers eventually or that he wil become a solid middle 6 forward. Definitely a better-than-average 4th round pick.
Haula is on a good contract (under $3 million) for his overall skill. But he's coming off injury, not a spring chicken, and the deal is done at the end of the year.
I'd say a good deal for both teams (given that Vegas needs to move guys out). But Vegas needs to move more. They have a huge set of contracts that are neither millstones nor great deals. The worst in Pacioretty, in my view, but he's still a good player (might be worth $7m for the next couple seasons, but term is longer). Moving players shouldn't be too hard for them at the end of the day.
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)
Would have been a free agent. Why is this somewhat relevant? Because this is round-abouts, where I think smiley Ben should haveSt. Louis Blues
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Blues are getting plenty of kudos and I guess rightfully so.
Bet Hutton will end up "re-signing" with the Canucks as a FA.
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)
I have a trade to announce...
Avs Acquire:
- Andre Burakovsky
Caps Acquire:
- UFA forward Scott Kosmachuk
- Second-round pick (2020)
- Third-round pick (2020)
Avs Acquire:
- Andre Burakovsky
Caps Acquire:
- UFA forward Scott Kosmachuk
- Second-round pick (2020)
- Third-round pick (2020)
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)
Jesus Christ... these guys are going to be scary up front. Burakovsky was one of the ones I was hoping Benning could swing a deal to get. Oh well...
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)
With a career high of 38 pts, the Avalanches traded a 2nd and 3rd round pick for Burakovsky. With a career high of 58 pts, the Canucks somehow overpaid a 1st and a 3rd to get JT Miller? How much would Burakovsky sign for the next contract? $4+ mil??
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)
Burskowsky’s last 4 seasons
Acquired with a 2nd and a 3rd and Kosmachuk
2019 - 12 goals 13 assists
2018 - 12 goals 13 assists
2017 - 12 goals 23 assists
2016 - 17 goals 21 assists
Mind blowing numbers
J.T. Miller last 4 seasons
Acquired with a conditional 1st and a 3rd
2019 - 13 goals 34 assists (75 games)
2018 - 10 goals 8 assists (19 games) Tampa
2018 - 13 goals 27 assists (63 games) NYR
2017 - 22 goals 34 assists
2016 - 22 goals 21 assists
Acquired with a 2nd and a 3rd and Kosmachuk
2019 - 12 goals 13 assists
2018 - 12 goals 13 assists
2017 - 12 goals 23 assists
2016 - 17 goals 21 assists
Mind blowing numbers
J.T. Miller last 4 seasons
Acquired with a conditional 1st and a 3rd
2019 - 13 goals 34 assists (75 games)
2018 - 10 goals 8 assists (19 games) Tampa
2018 - 13 goals 27 assists (63 games) NYR
2017 - 22 goals 34 assists
2016 - 22 goals 21 assists
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)
I was just going to add to this...Jovocop wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2019 2:55 pmWith a career high of 38 pts, the Avalanches traded a 2nd and 3rd round pick for Burakovsky. With a career high of 58 pts, the Canucks somehow overpaid a 1st and a 3rd to get JT Miller? How much would Burakovsky sign for the next contract? $4+ mil??
If you compare Miller with Burakovsky the last 5 seasons:
- Miller was a true top-6 player
- Miller averaged 2 more minutes per game
- Miller averaged 52 points/season vs Burakovsky’s 29 points/season
- Miller averaged 80 games/season vs Burakovsky’s 65 games/season
- Both player’s overall metrics much better than Bo’s
Given both teams had cap concerns and several teams were interested in both of these guys to drive up their trade value, I don’t see how Miller was a huge overpayment.
EDIT: damn, Dude beat me to it.
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)
He wasn’t an overpayment, you’re listening to the wrong people
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)
Tampa has a good chance of getting a lottery pick
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)
2020 1st is lottery protected. This isn’t Calgary, Stud.
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)
2021 isn’t protected
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Re: Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)
Colin Miller to Buffalo for a 2nd and 5th.
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