Too much for me I think... but a #1 Dman is pretty specialAaronp18 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 27, 2018 11:03 amI think it depends on the team that gets the 1st OA. But it's also why I said #4, Gaudette, plus. That plus could be Tanev, Juolevi, more picks, other prospects depending on what team we'd be trying to get the pick from.Blob Mckenzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 27, 2018 10:44 am That doesn’t get it done .... it would cost Petterson + 4 and I’m not even sure if that gets it done
And then you may be right and in order to get the 1st this year we'd have to be willing to move either Boeser, Horvat or Pettersson. Thats would be a tough call in order to draft a near sure #1 D-man.
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Very interesting conversations, to be sure.
If I may be a tad impolite and interject for a sec.
Unless the Canucks drastically improve not only the defensive coaching, but the way the forwards pick up their assignments in the defensive zone,
winning or sacrificing plenty to get #1 may not mean much!
There are notable miscommuniques in our system that must be ironed out.
The argument could be made that this is because of our current talent level but I am not buying that.
If I may be a tad impolite and interject for a sec.
Unless the Canucks drastically improve not only the defensive coaching, but the way the forwards pick up their assignments in the defensive zone,
winning or sacrificing plenty to get #1 may not mean much!
There are notable miscommuniques in our system that must be ironed out.
The argument could be made that this is because of our current talent level but I am not buying that.
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Alexander Daigle, Patrick Stefan, Brian Lawton, Rick DiPietro...
Those names make it a fools move to pay a heavy price to move up from 4th to 1st.
Dahlin is probably going to be a top pairing anchor, but he could also just as easily end up being another Alex Edler or Mathias Ohlund. Both top 3 guys, but not worth that kind of cost.
Those names make it a fools move to pay a heavy price to move up from 4th to 1st.
Dahlin is probably going to be a top pairing anchor, but he could also just as easily end up being another Alex Edler or Mathias Ohlund. Both top 3 guys, but not worth that kind of cost.
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I agree. It's not the same as a major deal to get a proven player. You can never be sure with undrafted players, so just keep the position and draft BPA.
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He will be a Viktor Hedman level playerMëds wrote: ↑Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:21 pm Alexander Daigle, Patrick Stefan, Brian Lawton, Rick DiPietro...
Those names make it a fools move to pay a heavy price to move up from 4th to 1st.
Dahlin is probably going to be a top pairing anchor, but he could also just as easily end up being another Alex Edler or Mathias Ohlund. Both top 3 guys, but not worth that kind of cost.
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Yee of little faith
Over the Internet, you can pretend to be anyone or anything.
I'm amazed that so many people choose to be complete twats.
I'm amazed that so many people choose to be complete twats.
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I’d be ecstatic with that. Hedman is a top 3 d man in the game, maybe even the best
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1st overall picks never get traded anymore in this salary cap era, the best times were in the olden days before teams knew what they were doing and the Habs ripped off everyone.
The latest 1stOA picks dealt was back in the early 2000's.
Because as everyone here should know, having a #1 Dman on your team is pretty rare (Canucks have never had one), so any time you can draft one, you do everything in your power to try to get that accomplished.
The latest 1stOA picks dealt was back in the early 2000's.
If you wanted a better shot at first OA, the best bet would be to make a trade with the Sabres/Sens/Coyotes before the draft lotto, with the right to swap picks in 2019 or something to that effect.2002: The Panthers trade the no. 1 pick and a third-rounder to the Penguins for the no. 3 pick, a second-rounder, and Mikael Samuelsson.
2003: The Blue Jackets trade the no. 3 pick and the right to swap picks in 2003 to Florida for the no. 1 pick.
The right to swap future first-rounders seems to be a staple of these deals.
And that’s it. In the dozen years since the 2003 draft, we’ve yet to see another top overall pick traded, even though it is rumored to be in play just about every year. Not a single team has traded up to no. 1 since the dawn of the salary-cap era.
So what did we learn? It’s rare to see the no. 1 pick get moved, and when it does happen, it’s almost always in a deal that gets done well in advance before the draft slots are finalized.
http://grantland.com/the-triangle/were- ... -top-pick/
Because as everyone here should know, having a #1 Dman on your team is pretty rare (Canucks have never had one), so any time you can draft one, you do everything in your power to try to get that accomplished.
Can the Canucks just win a Cup within the next 5 years.
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Dahlin can do some pretty sick, slick things with the puck with a calmess and amazing confidence, the guy doesn't get rattled. I don't see any similarities between him and any existing NHL D-men, Hedman included.
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Geez don’t go there dude....
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Didn't say he was going to be the best thing ever, I just don't see many D-men in the league he is similar too. He's quite unique. People may say "Dude, you've lost the plot" but I see some similarities between him and Lumme. But better. Don't you remember Lumme could pull off some nice moves? By accident yes, but Lumme could be real slick sometimes with his dipsy doodling puck handling. Dahlin's stick handling has a purpose where Lumme just kind of accidentally made things happen. I think Lumme even surprised himself sometimes "did I just do that?"
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Yah he always seemed back on his skates... almost out of control. Anyways all I meant is we are collectively coming to grips with lower pick and remain excited and I didn’t want to hear how good Dahlin may be....RoyalDude wrote: ↑Tue Mar 27, 2018 4:11 pm Didn't say he was going to be the best thing ever, I just don't see many D-men in the league he is similar too. He's quite unique. People may say "Dude, you've lost the plot" but I see some similarities between him and Lumme. But better. Don't you remember Lumme could pull off some nice moves? By accident yes, but Lumme could be real slick sometimes with his dipsy doodling puck handling. Dahlin's stick handling has a purpose where Lumme just kind of accidentally made things happen. I think Lumme even surprised himself sometimes "did I just do that?"
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I wasn’t comparing Dahlins play style to Hedman. I was thinking how much impact he could have as an all situations player and an offensive force from the back end.
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With the team playing decent the last few games, do you guys figure it’s a good idea to bring thatcher up and let him get a couple of starts? I’m leaning towards yes.