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Cornuck wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2025 9:13 am So you (UW / Topper) see it as an innocent wave to his fans?

We'll never know - but it's just something to remember for future reference.

I tend to presume most things are innocent (maybe dumb, but not malevolent) absent strong evidence to the contrary. Not because I am naive, but because I am not inherently sanctimonious. This is especially so where those making the accusations and insinuations have been so terribly and miserably wrong time and time again.

Tell you what, though. If the American Republic turns into a nazi state in the next four years and Musk becomes a senior minister, you will be able to say "I told you so."

donlever wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2025 9:16 am Hey, look over there....

There is a lot of this, isn't there? Not sure which "side" benefits more from this state of affairs, but this is one where the media (once again) falls short of its obligation -- but maybe gets clicks? There has been so much activity in the past 7 days, some (in my view) good, some (in my view) not so great, some (I am sure) I have no idea has happened, and here we are talking about whether Elon Musk made a nazi gesture....

UWSaint wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2025 9:48 am

donlever wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2025 9:16 am Hey, look over there....

There is a lot of this, isn't there? Not sure which "side" benefits more from this state of affairs, but this is one where the media (once again) falls short of its obligation -- but maybe gets clicks? There has been so much activity in the past 7 days, some (in my view) good, some (in my view) not so great, some (I am sure) I have no idea has happened, and here we are talking about whether Elon Musk made a nazi gesture....

Tons of distractions, and no real reporting any more. This current 'musk gesture' discussion is fine for a hockey board to toss back and forth, but there are much bigger issues at hand for the mass media to cover.

trump is all about distractions, and plays the media for (mostly) fools they are. Today's distraction is about planes to Columbia (even though there have been 100's already going without the 'fanfare').

Sure, okay.

But the Dems didn't/don't do that?

C'mon Corn.

donlever wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2025 11:04 am Sure, okay.
But the Dems didn't/don't do that?
C'mon Corn.

To the same degree?

C'mon Don.

I'd venture to say yes, to the same degree but on a more surreptitious level.

Boisterous in your face blowhard.

Secretive killing you softly sweethearts.

Same end result.

You and me be fucked over....

Cornuck wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2025 9:13 am So you (UW / Topper) see it as an innocent wave to his fans?

We'll never know - but it's just something to remember for future reference.

I don’t think it was an innocent wave at all. I think it was a 100% troll.

Musk, and Trump as well imho, are expert trolls. They expose the stupidity of their opponents by baiting them into jumping all over stuff like this and making wild claims about their beliefs despite all the clear evidence to the contrary…..as UW pointed out, Trump is a massive friend of Israel yet decried as a Nazi (anti-Semite by definition), made massive gains with the “minorities” who Nazis would, by virtue of mission statement, also hate.

On a local level, Doc does the exact same thing to some. To the point that they expose themselves and the try to walk back and reframe their words…..and eventually snap and disappear (the list is long, but see ukcanuck for one).

Cornuck wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2025 10:46 am

UWSaint wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2025 9:48 am

donlever wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2025 9:16 am Hey, look over there....

There is a lot of this, isn't there? Not sure which "side" benefits more from this state of affairs, but this is one where the media (once again) falls short of its obligation -- but maybe gets clicks? There has been so much activity in the past 7 days, some (in my view) good, some (in my view) not so great, some (I am sure) I have no idea has happened, and here we are talking about whether Elon Musk made a nazi gesture....

Tons of distractions, and no real reporting any more. This current 'musk gesture' discussion is fine for a hockey board to toss back and forth, but there are much bigger issues at hand for the mass media to cover.

trump is all about distractions, and plays the media for (mostly) fools they are. Today's distraction is about planes to Columbia (even though there have been 100's already going without the 'fanfare').

And which side of the fence does the VAST majority of the media land on politically?

So to answer your question….

Corn wrote:

Lever wrote:
But the Dems didn't/don't do that?

C'mon Corn.

To the same degree?

C'mon Don.

To a greater degree through their media lapdogs.

donlever wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2025 11:27 am Same end result.

You and me be fucked over....

And therein lies the ultimately conclusive thought to the entire right vs left discussion.

Mëds wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2025 12:24 pm On a local level, Doc does the exact same thing to some. To the point that they expose themselves and the try to walk back and reframe their words…..and eventually snap and disappear (the list is long, but see ukcanuck for one).

Strangelove wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2025 12:33 pm

Mëds wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2025 12:24 pm On a local level, Doc does the exact same thing to some. To the point that they expose themselves and the try to walk back and reframe their words…..and eventually snap and disappear (the list is long, but see ukcanuck for one).

I shoulda known better than to risk inflating that ego…..

Wait... were you pumping my tires or slashing them?

Generally you're good with either no?

Ovens are producing plenty of hot air today.

donlever wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2025 1:00 pm Generally you're good with either no?

Sure, just curious...