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Re: 2024 Offseason - moving forward
Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2024 7:27 pm
by Cousin Strawberry
donlever wrote: ↑Tue Jul 02, 2024 6:17 pm
Aaronp18 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 10:04 pm
Jake DeBrusk
6’1” 198, Edmonton AB
Danton Heinen
6’2” 195, Langley BC
Derek Forbort
6’4” 216, Duluth MN
Vincent Desharnais
6’7” 226, Laval PQ
Kiefer Sherwood
6’ 194, Columbus OH
...to add to this point and something that (somewhat surprisingly) has not been discussed this last week.
Fernstrom - 6'1" 187
Patterson - 6'1" 192
Romani - 6' 195
Alcos - 6'3 " 185
Sansonnens - 6'4" 198
Good spot Leves. I didn't even notice that subtle shift in direction.
It's like passing out on the pontoon boat then the wind takes you into somewhere you never intended to go before. An alternate reality
Re: 2024 Offseason - moving forward
Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2024 7:28 pm
by donlever
Possibly Dude.....
Or shitty coaches.
Two way streets and all that.
Re: 2024 Offseason - moving forward
Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:37 pm
by Meds
donlever wrote: ↑Tue Jul 02, 2024 6:23 pm
Mëds wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:34 pm
Everything I've heard about Zegras is a hard pass. He's not liked or respected by his fellow players.
Not sure about this Mëds.
Zegras is tight with the Hughes boys.
That's in his favour then.
Re: 2024 Offseason - moving forward
Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:39 pm
by Meds
donlever wrote: ↑Tue Jul 02, 2024 7:22 pm
Better explained...
I was being a smarmy prick.
Unlike me I know.
It was quite out of character.....hence why I missed it.
Re: 2024 Offseason - moving forward
Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2024 8:39 am
by Diehard1
So let’s see who Allvin has his eye on as he’s definitely not done. I’m thinking it might be somebody from the Avs, who are about $2.5 million over the cap as they have to keep space for both Nichushkin and Landeskog on their cap even if they won’t play. At $2.5 million over the cap they have a roster of 19 guys so they have no choice but to trade at least one and more likely 2-3 players.
I have my eye on Ross Colton - he’s 27, scores 15-20 a year with zero PP time, physical and a bit of a prick. Can also play C or LW. He’s a bit overpaid at $4 million a year for the next 3 seasons but that means the Avs will have to give even more of a sweetener to move him. I’m guessing he might go to the Ducks who have tons of space and need any player they can get, but Allvin should definitely consider it.
Lots of other options to get another player but something more is going to happen.
Re: 2024 Offseason - moving forward
Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2024 10:02 am
by Chef Boi RD
donlever wrote: ↑Tue Jul 02, 2024 7:28 pm
Possibly Dude.....
Or shitty coaches.
Two way streets and all that.
He is young still and may grow up, but that remains to be seen.
Re: 2024 Offseason - moving forward
Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2024 11:58 am
by Blob Mckenzie
Chef Boi RD wrote: ↑Wed Jul 03, 2024 10:02 am
donlever wrote: ↑Tue Jul 02, 2024 7:28 pm
Possibly Dude.....
Or shitty coaches.
Two way streets and all that.
He is young still and may grow up, but that remains to be seen.
Was he the guy that Jay Beagle beat up? Or was that Aaron Asham?
Re: 2024 Offseason - moving forward
Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2024 2:46 pm
by Strangelove
https://x.com/Canucks/status/1807636984699277701
VIDEO: 2024 Development Camp players, coaches, Allvin.
Re: 2024 Offseason - moving forward
Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2024 4:50 pm
by Chef Boi RD
Blob Mckenzie wrote: ↑Wed Jul 03, 2024 11:58 am
Chef Boi RD wrote: ↑Wed Jul 03, 2024 10:02 am
donlever wrote: ↑Tue Jul 02, 2024 7:28 pm
Possibly Dude.....
Or shitty coaches.
Two way streets and all that.
He is young still and may grow up, but that remains to be seen.
Was he the guy that Jay Beagle beat up? Or was that Aaron Asham?
Asham was a tough dude, the natives tend to be good scrappers in the NHL
Chris Simon
Asham
Odjick
Stan Jonathan
Delorme
Rypien
McCarthy (Ofjicks bud)
Ted Nolan’s kid (he ragdolled Stanton)
Who else am I missing?
Re: 2024 Offseason - moving forward
Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2024 5:41 pm
by donlever
Berube
Pilon
Mirasty
Peluso
Poeschek
Grimson
....less tough Diduck and Shayne Corson.
A good deal of Metis identification in that group.
Re: 2024 Offseason - moving forward
Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2024 6:53 pm
by Cousin Strawberry
Jackson Kunz though
Re: 2024 Offseason - moving forward
Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2024 7:47 pm
by donlever
Tarasenko 2 years at 4.75 per.
Seems a stretch.
Re: 2024 Offseason - moving forward
Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2024 8:54 pm
by Blob Mckenzie
Would love Tank at 4.75. Very good player.
Re: 2024 Offseason - moving forward
Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2024 11:18 pm
by Todd Bersnoozi
Aaronp18 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 10:04 pm
Jake DeBrusk
6’1” 198, Edmonton AB
Danton Heinen
6’2” 195, Langley BC
Kiefer Sherwood
6’ 194, Columbus OH
I really liked the direction of mgmt last season as they spent money and assets @ centre ice and D. This off season, it seems like they spent everything on the wings. I like being strong in the middle, so I like have solid centres and D-men. I don't mind being weaker on the wings. The thing is, I think we have some young wingers improving (Hogs & Podz) and some wingers coming along in the system (Lekkermaki & Raty). It seems like we have a surplus of wingers now and we don't really have any centres beyond the big club.
The length of DeBrusk's contract is the thing I don't like more than anything. I thought it would have been better to get a guy who's a on the older side and would command less AAV + less term. Toffoli would have been nice. Other scorers who got contracts that I think would fit better for our situation are Duclair, Skinner, Duchesne or Tarasenko.
I guess they were desperate to get a winger for EP40 and believe that DeBrusk is the guy. It seems like that the Nucks have been wanting to get him for awhile now. Even under the old regime, I seem to recall JB wanted to trade Jake for DeBrusk. I will admit though, the way DeBrusk has been trending and he's right in his prime, he may have a couple of 30G seasons in him.
Also, with all these long-term contracts now, not sure we'll be able to keep Brockstar6.
Derek Forbort
6’4” 216, Duluth MN
Vincent Desharnais
6’7” 226, Laval PQ
These 2 seem like strictly bottom pairing or 7th D-men kind of guys. At least with Zaddy and Cole, they could move up the lineup a bit and play some top 4 minutes. Now, if one of Huggy, Hronek, Soucy or Myers gets injured for an extended period, it may be asking too much of Forbort, Desharnais or Juulsen to step up. I can understand that maybe they didn't want to give Zaddy 6+ years, but they should have paid for a more proven guy like B.Dillon or Edmundson.
Re: 2024 Offseason - moving forward
Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2024 11:24 pm
by Meds
Todd Bersnoozi wrote: ↑Wed Jul 03, 2024 11:18 pm
Aaronp18 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 10:04 pm
Jake DeBrusk
6’1” 198, Edmonton AB
Danton Heinen
6’2” 195, Langley BC
Kiefer Sherwood
6’ 194, Columbus OH
I really liked the direction of mgmt last season as they spent money and assets @ centre ice and D. This off season, it seems like they spent everything on the wings. I like being strong in the middle, so I like have solid centres and D-men. I don't mind being weaker on the wings. The thing is, I think we have some young wingers improving (Hogs & Podz) and some wingers coming along in the system (Lekkermaki & Raty). It seems like we have a surplus of wingers now and we don't really have any centres beyond the big club.
The length of DeBrusk's contract is the thing I don't like more than anything. I thought it would have been better to get a guy who's a on the older side and would command less AAV + less term. Toffoli would have been nice. Other scorers who got contracts that I think would fit better for our situation are Duclair, Skinner, Duchesne or Tarasenko.
I guess they were desperate to get a winger for EP40 and believe that DeBrusk is the guy. It seems like that the Nucks have been wanting to get him for awhile now. Even under the old regime, I seem to recall JB wanted to trade Jake for DeBrusk. I will admit though, the way DeBrusk has been trending and he's right in his prime, he may have a couple of 30G seasons in him.
Also, with all these long-term contracts now, not sure we'll be able to keep Brockstar6.
Derek Forbort
6’4” 216, Duluth MN
Vincent Desharnais
6’7” 226, Laval PQ
These 2 seem like strictly bottom pairing or 7th D-men kind of guys. At least with Zaddy and Cole, they could move up the lineup a bit and play some top 4 minutes. Now, if one of Huggy, Hronek, Soucy or Myers gets injured for an extended period, it may be asking too much of Forbort, Desharnais or Juulsen to step up. I can understand that maybe they didn't want to give Zaddy 6+ years, but they should have paid for a more proven guy like B.Dillon or Edmundson.
Aatu Raty is a centerman.