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Topper wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 4:19 pm Harris is running pro Palestinian ads in Muslim populous Michigan and pro Israel ads in Jewish populous Pennsylvania.
https://legalinsurrection.com/2024/11/k ... pulations/

Politicians lol.
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donlever wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 4:29 pm
Topper wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 4:19 pm Harris is running pro Palestinian ads in Muslim populous Michigan and pro Israel ads in Jewish populous Pennsylvania.
https://legalinsurrection.com/2024/11/k ... pulations/

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Talk about a house divided…..
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Nothing wrong with supporting Israel's right to defend itself as well as the plight of the Palestinians. These people are just pawns to Hamas.

Anyways, on to the depravity that is Trump. New Epstein tapes about to be dropped. Yes, this close to the election.

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5thhorseman wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 8:09 am Nothing wrong with supporting Israel's right to defend itself as well as the plight of the Palestinians. These people are just pawns to Hamas.

Anyways, on to the depravity that is Trump. New Epstein tapes about to be dropped. Yes, this close to the election.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/listen-to ... st-friend/
Not sure that this will move the needle one way or another at this point. Everyone knows Trump is a scumbag. So it just boils down to the least of the two evils, and as bad as Trump is, Harris and her left wing agenda are much worse.
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BCExpat wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 11:37 am
5thhorseman wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 8:09 am Nothing wrong with supporting Israel's right to defend itself as well as the plight of the Palestinians. These people are just pawns to Hamas.

Anyways, on to the depravity that is Trump. New Epstein tapes about to be dropped. Yes, this close to the election.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/listen-to ... st-friend/
Not sure that this will move the needle one way or another at this point. Everyone knows Trump is a scumbag. So it just boils down to the least of the two evils, and as bad as Trump is, Harris and her left wing agenda are much worse.
I’ve found that nothing moves the needle at this point BCE. What Doc refers to as Trump Derangement Syndrome is alive and well. People hate the guy so much that they would rather surrender the future of civilization in the west rather than see Trump win.
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Mëds wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 12:11 pm
BCExpat wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 11:37 am Harris and her left wing agenda are much worse.
they would rather surrender the future of civilization in the west rather than see Trump win.
Interesting take. Can either of you tell me how the left wing agenda will destroy western civilization?
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Cornuck wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 12:14 pm
Mëds wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 12:11 pm
BCExpat wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 11:37 am Harris and her left wing agenda are much worse.
they would rather surrender the future of civilization in the west rather than see Trump win.
Interesting take. Can either of you tell me how the left wing agenda will destroy western civilization?
You need to get out of Nebraska and look around at our cities for evidence every now and then Cornuck. Western civilization is disintegrating due to the rise (and fall) of all the lefty governments and their destructive globalist agendas
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Cousin Strawberry wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 12:18 pm You need to get out of Nebraska and look around at our cities for evidence every now and then Cornuck. Civilization is disintegrating due to the rise (and fall) of all the lefty governments and their destructive globalist agendas
Do you honestly think the election of trump will improve anything? "Destructive globalist agenda"? What does this even mean? International trade?

Is it an "immigration" problem you're referring to?
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Cornuck wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 12:21 pm
Cousin Strawberry wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 12:18 pm You need to get out of Nebraska and look around at our cities for evidence every now and then Cornuck. Civilization is disintegrating due to the rise (and fall) of all the lefty governments and their destructive globalist agendas
Do you honestly think the election of trump will improve anything? "Destructive globalist agenda"? What does this even mean? International trade?

Is it an "immigration" problem you're referring to?
Heard of 15 minute cities?

Heard of green new deals that have the agenda of limiting the distances you can travel in your own state/province/country?

Have you take a gander at the state of education and healthcare?

Have you listened to the leftist desire to pass laws that outlaw hate speech…..but let them decide what hate speech is?

Pull your head out of the sand.
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Mëds wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 1:06 pm
Cornuck wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 12:21 pm
Cousin Strawberry wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 12:18 pm You need to get out of Nebraska and look around at our cities for evidence every now and then Cornuck. Civilization is disintegrating due to the rise (and fall) of all the lefty governments and their destructive globalist agendas
Do you honestly think the election of trump will improve anything? "Destructive globalist agenda"? What does this even mean? International trade?

Is it an "immigration" problem you're referring to?
Heard of 15 minute cities?

Heard of green new deals that have the agenda of limiting the distances you can travel in your own state/province/country?

Have you take a gander at the state of education and healthcare?

Have you listened to the leftist desire to pass laws that outlaw hate speech…..but let them decide what hate speech is?

Pull your head out of the sand.
Ok - so a 15 minute city is an urban planning approach - is it law up there or something?

I haven't heard anything about limits on travel - do you have links?

Education? Can't say I've seen what it's like in Canada. In general (North America) it's criminally underfunded. Is there something other than basic teaching that you're concerned about? Like teachers pushing an agenda?

The "listened to the leftist desire to pass laws that outlaw hate speech" - the right wing is already doing that down here. Banning books, then firing teachers and librarians that don't do as they're told. Asking neighbours to report on trans kids or anyone who might have traveled to get an abortion - and maybe get a $10,000 reward - these are actual laws that are getting passed down here.

Are there any actual studies or stats, reports or laws that you can cite for this?

Are these examples things that are happening in Canada, and you are projecting them on the American side of the border?

Some things that 'could' happen under trump:
NATO breaks down, or is severely crippled when the US pulls out.
Tariffs will raise prices and hurt many industries with ratalitory tariffs
RFK jr gets puts in charge of all things health
Musk gets put in place to start gutting what he doesn't agree with
trump lowers taxes again, creating even more deficit than the first time around.
etc etc
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Mëds wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 1:06 pm Have you listened to the leftist desire to pass laws that outlaw hate speech…..but let them decide what hate speech is?
This one is funny. Weren't you guys deciding that the pro-Palestinian protests at universities were hate speech and should be outlawed?

If you want free speech you have to allow all of it.
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BCExpat wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 11:37 am
5thhorseman wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 8:09 am Nothing wrong with supporting Israel's right to defend itself as well as the plight of the Palestinians. These people are just pawns to Hamas.

Anyways, on to the depravity that is Trump. New Epstein tapes about to be dropped. Yes, this close to the election.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/listen-to ... st-friend/
Not sure that this will move the needle one way or another at this point.
Yeah it definitely won't move the needle at this site and I'm not looking for it to either. I'm in it mostly for the entertainment.

But in the general US population, these late breaking stories are having an impact especially with women voters. Harris apparently has an unheard of lead in deep red Iowa.
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Trump is one of them Corn. They're all actors in the same play.

The illusion of choice is the heart of the issue. Who are the master manipulators?

I have my ideas but I'll keep those to myself. All I know is there is pretty well no left, right or choices left in western politics. It's all about replacing the middle class with the easily manipulated in order to maximize profits. The hordes of foreigner migrants are the most easily manipulated of the day
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Cousin Strawberry wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 1:57 pm Trump is one of them Corn. They're all actors in the same play.

The illusion of choice is the heart of the issue. Who are the master manipulators?
In most elections, I would agree. At the top level, there will still be a 'business as usual' to keep the economy running to some degree.

On many other issues, there is a ton of difference. If you want all of the farm workers and construction workers, etc etc deported - vote for trump. If you want people who have been here for 20 years (but not 'legal') and have families and kids deported - vote for trump.
If you want to see a nationwide abortion ban - vote trump
If you want to see regulations that help keep the air and water repealed, vote trump.

Trust me, it will get ugly down here. As I've said before, trump will be off golfing while his followers get in and work on their pet projects.

It's not about personality at this point. It's a matter of whether this country wants to elect an old man with nothing to lose, and is only in it for the money - or someone who possibly, just maybe might give a shit about the middle class.

last time trump got in, he inherited a great economy - he left in shambles since he couldn't / wouldn't deal with covid. Right now the economy is getting back to solid footing (indicators seem positive, but it's not there yet) and is stronger than other countries. trump would inherit that and then start his tariff wars.
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Cornuck wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 2:07 pm
Cousin Strawberry wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 1:57 pm Trump is one of them Corn. They're all actors in the same play.

The illusion of choice is the heart of the issue. Who are the master manipulators?
In most elections, I would agree. At the top level, there will still be a 'business as usual' to keep the economy running to some degree.

On many other issues, there is a ton of difference. If you want all of the farm workers and construction workers, etc etc deported - vote for trump. If you want people who have been here for 20 years (but not 'legal') and have families and kids deported - vote for trump.
If you want to see a nationwide abortion ban - vote trump
If you want to see regulations that help keep the air and water repealed, vote trump.

Trust me, it will get ugly down here. As I've said before, trump will be off golfing while his followers get in and work on their pet projects.

It's not about personality at this point. It's a matter of whether this country wants to elect an old man with nothing to lose, and is only in it for the money - or someone who possibly, just maybe might give a shit about the middle class.

last time trump got in, he inherited a great economy - he left in shambles since he couldn't / wouldn't deal with covid. Right now the economy is getting back to solid footing (indicators seem positive, but it's not there yet) and is stronger than other countries. trump would inherit that and then start his tariff wars.
Like I said, as bad as Trump is, I absolutely hate Harris. I don't know what university gave her a law degree, but their status as an accredited institution should be revoked. She is nothing more than a cackling air head. I feel sorry for the USA, having such a dismal choice for president. 300,000,000 + or - citizens and these two are the best you can do??
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