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Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16 *AND* 20 *AND* 22 *AND* 24
Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2024 4:31 pm
by Topper
She sounds more like a Sunday morning televangelist than a President.
These bland, circuitous, motherhood statements don't say anything of substance.
Will they do one bit of good negotiating foreign policy on the world stage? Will speaking like that to a foreign leader gain an iota of respect?
Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16 *AND* 20 *AND* 22 *AND* 24
Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2024 3:16 pm
by Topper
On the day Harris is heading to the southern border ICE released the following numbers
Acting ICE Director Patrick Lechleitner has confirmed in a letter that the Biden and Harris administration caught, and then released into the United States, 425,431 convicted criminals, included among them are 13,099 convicted of murder and 15,811 convicted of sexual assault.
Those are the convictions but also among them are 222,141 migrants with pending criminal charges including 1,845 for homicide and 4,250 for sexual assault.
Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16 *AND* 20 *AND* 22 *AND* 24
Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2024 3:42 pm
by Cornuck
Topper wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2024 3:16 pm
On the day Harris is heading to the southern border ICE released the following numbers
Acting ICE Director Patrick Lechleitner has confirmed in a letter that the Biden and Harris administration caught, and then released into the United States, 425,431 convicted criminals, included among them are 13,099 convicted of murder and 15,811 convicted of sexual assault.
Those are the convictions but also among them are 222,141 migrants with pending criminal charges including 1,845 for homicide and 4,250 for sexual assault.
Alarming numbers for sure - but I can't find any context, like when they arrived, what per cent is undocumented (vs green card), etc - but still needs to be dealt with.
Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16 *AND* 20 *AND* 22 *AND* 24
Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2024 9:27 am
by Topper
Cornuck wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2024 3:42 pm
Topper wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2024 3:16 pm
On the day Harris is heading to the southern border ICE released the following numbers
Acting ICE Director Patrick Lechleitner has confirmed in a letter that the Biden and Harris administration caught, and then released into the United States, 425,431 convicted criminals, included among them are 13,099 convicted of murder and 15,811 convicted of sexual assault.
Those are the convictions but also among them are 222,141 migrants with pending criminal charges including 1,845 for homicide and 4,250 for sexual assault.
Alarming numbers for sure - but I can't find any context, like when they arrived, what per cent is undocumented (vs green card), etc - but still needs to be dealt with.
The official letter has been posted

Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16 *AND* 20 *AND* 22 *AND* 24
Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2024 10:51 am
by 5thhorseman
It seems ICE has limited capacity to detain immigrants themselves, plus local agencies are resistant to providing detention facilities. What budget do they have to deport illegals? Was there an increase in that budget in the bill that Trump killed? Why isn't Mexico just allowing them back? These are cumulative figures so how many of them arrived in the last year, 4 years, 10 years? The letter leaves more questions than answers.
Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16 *AND* 20 *AND* 22 *AND* 24
Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2024 9:08 pm
by Strangelove
Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16 *AND* 20 *AND* 22 *AND* 24
Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2024 10:03 pm
by 5thhorseman
Obviously he heard "strike" and responded re the issue of the day:
the impending longshoreman strike from Maine to Texas, which is set to begin tomorrow and will impact 50% of US ocean imports and exports.
Doc grasping at straws

Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16 *AND* 20 *AND* 22 *AND* 24
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2024 4:52 am
by Topper
Nothing but straw in Joe's cranium
Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16 *AND* 20 *AND* 22 *AND* 24
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2024 8:27 am
by Cornuck
Cornuck wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2024 3:42 pm
Topper wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2024 3:16 pm
On the day Harris is heading to the southern border ICE released the following numbers
Acting ICE Director Patrick Lechleitner has confirmed in a letter that the Biden and Harris administration caught, and then released into the United States, 425,431 convicted criminals, included among them are 13,099 convicted of murder and 15,811 convicted of sexual assault.
Those are the convictions but also among them are 222,141 migrants with pending criminal charges including 1,845 for homicide and 4,250 for sexual assault.
Alarming numbers for sure - but I can't find any context, like when they arrived, what per cent is undocumented (vs green card), etc - but still needs to be dealt with.
More context -
https://www.factcheck.org/2024/09/trump ... murderers/
For example, the ICE acting director said in his letter that there are 425,431 convicted criminals on the agency’s non-detained docket as of July 21. But, as Mittelstadt noted, ICE reported in a budget document “that there were 405,786 convicted criminal noncitizens on the non-detained docket in June 2021 – so the vast majority would have gotten on during the prior administrations as the Biden administration by then was just five months old.” The number of people on the docket has increased by nearly 5% in about three years.
But then context / facts aren't needed by republican candidates
Vance, Sept. 28: Do you know that there are 13,000 — I know some of you are nodding because some of you saw this — 13,000 illegal immigrant murderers in the United States of America right now. They’re in this country because Kamala Harris let them in this country.
Trump, Sept. 29: During her term, it’s not even believable, she let in 13,099 convicted murderers. Some of them had murdered 10 people, some murdered seven. One murdered six.
Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16 *AND* 20 *AND* 22 *AND* 24
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2024 3:59 pm
by Strangelove
5thhorseman wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 10:03 pm
Obviously he heard "strike" and responded re the issue of the day:
the impending longshoreman strike from Maine to Texas, which is set to begin tomorrow and will impact 50% of US ocean imports and exports.
Doc grasping at straws
Congrats, you're the only one left still defending Joe's brain.
So he didn't hear the entire question and responded anyway?
Or does he think Yemen is deep in the heart of Texas?

Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16 *AND* 20 *AND* 22 *AND* 24
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2024 4:00 pm
by Strangelove
Topper wrote: ↑Tue Oct 01, 2024 4:52 am
Nothing but straw in Joe's cranium

Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16 *AND* 20 *AND* 22 *AND* 24
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2024 7:08 pm
by Cousin Strawberry
Anyone catch a glimpse of Jimmy Carter's corpse turning 100?
He looked like the guy Hannibal Lector sicked the pigs on
Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16 *AND* 20 *AND* 22 *AND* 24
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2024 8:05 pm
by Strangelove
Cousin Strawberry wrote: ↑Tue Oct 01, 2024 7:08 pm
Anyone catch a glimpse of Jimmy Carter's corpse turning 100?
He looked like the guy Hannibal Lector sicked the pigs on
Yet he still crushes Dementia Joe at checkers.
Speaking of "crushing"...
... Tampon Tim was crushed like a bug by JD Vance tonight!
Dropped him like a hammered steer in a Chicago slaughterhouse.
Walz: "I’ve become friends with school shooters."

Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16 *AND* 20 *AND* 22 *AND* 24
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 5:38 am
by Topper
A few comments on the debate;
See what can happen when there are adults in the room. Polite discourse.
Vance never took Tim's bait and insisted on keeping to the high road. He was gracious and complimented Tim, he repeatedly showed empathy That flustered Tim. Seems Tim prepped to be the standard VP attack dog debater but Vance set the tone and controlled the stage.
He repeatedly confused Iran and Israel while speaking, sometimes correcting himself and sometime not. Then there was the 'friend of school shooter comment" comment. What a knucklehead.
1st question - Tim, why did you lie about being in Hong Kong during the Tiananmen Square Massacre? "I'm a knucklehead." In followup, he still didn't own it and bumbled through yet another excuse. The door was open for Vance to go at Tim over stolen valor, stolen chamber of Commerce Awards .... Vance didn't take the bait. Vance when asked about his past criticism of Trump's 1st term, he owned it and then explained his reasoning and what changed his mind.
Vance turned nearly every question into the Harris-Biden records on immigration and the economy. Great focus. As someone noted when Trump picked him, whatever room he enters, he is the smartest guy in the room (it was also noted that his wife may be the exception to that).
The abortion question was never going to be a Republican strong point. Walz nailed it. It is not a political decision, it something to be decided between a woman and her doctor. Tough to argue against that, however to many, abortion is a religious/moral issue first and foremost. Vance stood for them while still saying carve outs for medical reasons should be in place while noting a friend, young and unwed, had an abortion for economic reasons and that was right for her. A huge change in the traditional religious right Republican stance.
Where Vance did hit Walz on the issue was his far better understanding of the Minnesota abortion law Walz signed.
Showing he is the smartest guy in the room, he politely fact checked the fact checker.
Both candidates skirted around and evaded how they will pay for and the implementation details of their campaigns stated policy.
There was a bias to moderation, Vance would be asked pointed separate followup questions, whereas Walz would be asked to comment on or counter what Vance had just said. If Vance had instead, been asked to comment on Tim's comments there would have been more lively debate.
Unfortunately when there was lively debate occurring, the mods cut it off by calling time.
No question on hurricane relief, only mention was as a lead into a question on climate change. No question on China and foreign interference.
Great to the candidates on screen while the other was speaking. Walz looked angry, confused and did weird furious note taking, Vance looked like he was listening to his opponent and would give the camera a sly sideways glance, nearly a wink, whenever Walz said something controversial. It was though he was signalling his staff, 'you get that clip."
Vance in 2028 is real.
Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16 *AND* 20 *AND* 22 *AND* 24
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 9:53 am
by BCExpat
Walz looks like an unfunny Don Rickles.