We're All Doomed!™ (the Conquest, War, Famine, and Death Thread)

[Strangelove]

Well Per, it has already been stated that Who and agencies like the CDC only want reports of the ones who tested positive. All others are not to be reported as Covid deaths. Some countries are reporting them as Covid presumptive. But those numbers still do not get added to the official death rate. Again, only if someone had a positive test does it get included in the official count.

UPDATE:

https://globalnews.ca/news/6818734/coro ... -probable/

The official death toll from the coronavirus soared in New York City on Tuesday after health authorities began including people who probably had COVID-19, but died without ever being tested.

Officials reported 3,778 “probable” deaths, where doctors were certain enough of the cause of death to list it on the death certificate, and 6,589 confirmed by a lab test. Combined, that would put the total fatalities in the city over 10,000.

We will never know the true death rate. We will never know if our mitigation saved lives and if so how many. This is scary because we will have no true frame of reference for the next time, be it in our lifetime or not.

In a year or so we will likely have a very good idea of the death rate.

(and an idea of how much our mitigation saved lives)

But yes, for now the numbers we see are pretty useless in that regard.

[Strangelove]

Sometimes I just can't help myself

Idiocracy! Great movie.

[Meds]

We will never know the true death rate. We will never know if our mitigation saved lives and if so how many. This is scary because we will have no true frame of reference for the next time, be it in our lifetime or not.

In a year or so we will likely have a very good idea of the death rate.

(and an idea of how much our mitigation saved lives)

But yes, for now the numbers we see are pretty useless in that regard.

We will have a good idea of the death rate for patients who were tested and confirmed to have Covid19.

We will never have a good idea of the actual death rate because we are capturing well under 50% of the total actual cases.

So hey, here's the death rate based on our known figures, however some speculate that we only actually captured like 6% of the total infected individuals, and all of those 94% of cases recovered (ya know otherwise they woulda been reported as dead from Covid).

[Strangelove]

We will never know the true death rate. We will never know if our mitigation saved lives and if so how many. This is scary because we will have no true frame of reference for the next time, be it in our lifetime or not.

In a year or so we will likely have a very good idea of the death rate.

(and an idea of how much our mitigation saved lives)

But yes, for now the numbers we see are pretty useless in that regard.

We will have a good idea of the death rate for patients who were tested and confirmed to have Covid19.

We will never have a good idea of the actual death rate because we are capturing well under 50% of the total actual cases.

So hey, here's the death rate based on our known figures, however some speculate that we only actually captured like 6% of the total infected individuals, and all of those 94% of cases recovered (ya know otherwise they woulda been reported as dead from Covid).

Still, the "actual" death rate of SARS, MERS, the seasonal flu... get estimated by organizations such as WHO.

The same will happen with C19... well it's already happening, but their numbers fluctuate wildly right now.

A year from now they'll probably have numbers we can trust as much as their numbers for SARS, MERS, etc.

[Megaterio Llamas]

Sometimes I just can't help myself

Idiocracy! Great movie.

That's what I keep hearing. Didn't see it myself, last one I saw was Tintin. I don't really see a lot of movies anymore.

[Strangelove]

Idiocracy! Great movie.

That's what I keep hearing. Didn't see it myself, last one I saw was Tintin. I don't really see a lot of movies anymore.

Well to be honest, it's more of a toking movie.

Here's the intro:

Natural selection drives Devolution!

Hey, it's not actually a "great" movie.

If you wanna watch a great movie, watch Once Upon a Time in Hollywood!

I think I know you well enough now to know you'd love it.

They do a great job of recreating 1969.

Hell, you'd love it for the soundtrack alone Meg!

[Megaterio Llamas]

Idiocracy! Great movie.

That's what I keep hearing. Didn't see it myself, last one I saw was Tintin. I don't really see a lot of movies anymore.

Well to be honest, it's more of a toking movie.

Here's the intro:

Natural selection drives Devolution!

Hey, it's not actually a "great" movie.

If you wanna watch a great movie, watch Once Upon a Time in Hollywood!

I think I know you well enough now to know you'd love it.

They do a great job of recreating 1969.

Hell, you'd love it for the soundtrack alone Meg!

Ah, hyper-realistic predictive sci fi my favorite.

I'll check the other one out possibly too Strangelove but I couldn't help but notice the opening of the Buckaroos classic Buckaroo in the 'Unscannable!' clip

^^^just makes you wanna holler yee haw after a few cans of Old Style don't it.


*speaking of predictive sci fi this old John Brunner novel recently caught my attention, I'm thinking of ordering it.

Check out some of the stuff this guy predicted writing back in the sixties in his story set in 2010:



Stand on Zanzibar is that rarity among science fiction novels — it really made accurate predictions about the future. The book, published in 1969, is set in the year 2010, and this allows us to make a point-by-point comparison, and marvel at novelist John Brunner’s uncanny ability to anticipate the shape of the world to come. Indeed, his vision of the year 2010 even includes a popular leader named President Obomi — face it, Nate Silver himself couldn’t have done that back in 1969!


(1) Random acts of violence by crazy individuals, often taking place at schools, plague society in Stand on Zanzibar.

(2) The other major source of instability and violence comes from terrorists, who are now a major threat to U.S. interests, and even manage to attack buildings within the United States.

(3) Prices have increased sixfold between 1960 and 2010 because of inflation. (The actual increase in U.S. prices during that period was sevenfold, but Brunner was close.)

(4) The most powerful U.S. rival is no longer the Soviet Union, but China. However, much of the competition between the U.S. and Asia is played out in economics, trade, and technology instead of overt warfare.

(5) Europeans have formed a union of nations to improve their economic prospects and influence on world affairs. In international issues, Britain tends to side with the U.S., but other countries in Europe are often critical of U.S. initiatives.

(6) Africa still trails far behind the rest of the world in economic development, and Israel remains the epicenter of tensions in the Middle East.

(7) Although some people still get married, many in the younger generation now prefer short-term hookups without long-term commitment.

(8) Gay and bisexual lifestyles have gone mainstream, and pharmaceuticals to improve sexual performance are widely used (and even advertised in the media).

(9) Many decades of affirmative action have brought blacks into positions of power, but racial tensions still simmer throughout society.

(10) Motor vehicles increasingly run on electric fuel cells. Honda (primarily known as a motorcycle manufacturers when Brunner wrote his book) is a major supplier, along with General Motors.

(11) Yet Detroit has not prospered, and is almost a ghost town because of all the shuttered factories. However. a new kind of music — with an uncanny resemblance to the actual Detroit techno movement of the 1990s — has sprung up in the city.

(12) TV news channels have now gone global via satellite.

(13) TiVo-type systems allow people to view TV programs according to their own schedule.

(14) Inflight entertainment systems on planes now include video programs and news accessible on individual screens at each seat.

(15) People rely on avatars to represent themselves on video screens — Brunner calls these images, which either can look like you or take on another appearance you select — “Mr. and Mrs. Everywhere.”

(16) Computer documents are generated with laser printers.

(17) A social and political backlash has marginalized tobacco, but marijuana has been decriminalized.



read more here:

http://www.themillions.com/2013/03/the-w...t-day.html

[Megaterio Llamas]

Found a link to a hard to find documentary favorite of mine, Grass: A Nation's Battle for Life. It's a 1925 silent with stunning black and white photography and a great soundtrack of regional ethnic music. It begins following the three film makers across Turkey to the high Zagros mountains of Iran where the three person film crew, two guys and a gal who went on to have various successes in the filmaking, military and espionage areas join the annual crossing of a treacherous mountain pass by members of the Iranian Bakhtiari tribe. The journey includes the entire tribe, women, children, elderly, and most importantly the livestock they depend on for survival.

So if anyone is into that sort of thing...


https://archive.org/details/GrassANatio ... nYaamMcade

[Strangelove]

I couldn't help but notice the opening of the Buckaroos classic Buckaroo in the 'Unscannable!' clip

Lol, only you would recognize the few notes of dat dere at the end of that clip!

^^^just makes you wanna holler yee haw after a few cans of Old Style don't it.

*straightens tie, gulps, glances side to side and whispers*

Listen even if I wanted to holler... "yee haw"... I would never admit it, dang Hoss I've got an image to think of!

*speaking of predictive sci fi this old John Brunner novel recently caught my attention, I'm thinking of ordering it.

Check out some of the stuff this guy predicted writing back in the sixties in his story set in 2010:

LIST

Actually that's amazing!

I had never heard of that book.

[Chef Boi RD]

“There will be a lot of death” - Donald Trump

[Strangelove]

Attaboi Dude, you're falling in love with the Don...

[Cousin Strawberry]

Listen even if I wanted to holler... "yee haw"... I would never admit it, dang Hoss I've got an image to think of!

I suspect there have been more than 1 yee haw episodes outta u over the years

I just went outside for a star piss and smoke(and look for weird ufo lights)...saw my dog chasing a cow moose out of the trees and yelled yee haw myself so not judging at all

[Topper]

Listen even if I wanted to holler... "yee haw"... I would never admit it, dang Hoss I've got an image to think of!

I suspect there have been more than 1 yee haw episodes outta u over the years

I just went outside for a star piss and smoke(and look for weird ufo lights)...saw my dog chasing a cow moose out of the trees and yelled yee haw myself so not judging at all

[Per]

Listen even if I wanted to holler... "yee haw"... I would never admit it, dang Hoss I've got an image to think of!

I suspect there have been more than 1 yee haw episodes outta u over the years

I just went outside for a star piss and smoke(and look for weird ufo lights)...saw my dog chasing a cow moose out of the trees and yelled yee haw myself so not judging at all

Yeah, sometimes there are moose in the trees. But mainly when the apples are ripe.

[Meds]

We will never know the true death rate. We will never know if our mitigation saved lives and if so how many. This is scary because we will have no true frame of reference for the next time, be it in our lifetime or not.

In a year or so we will likely have a very good idea of the death rate.

(and an idea of how much our mitigation saved lives)

But yes, for now the numbers we see are pretty useless in that regard.

We will have a good idea of the death rate for patients who were tested and confirmed to have Covid19.

We will never have a good idea of the actual death rate because we are capturing well under 50% of the total actual cases.

So hey, here's the death rate based on our known figures, however some speculate that we only actually captured like 6% of the total infected individuals, and all of those 94% of cases recovered (ya know otherwise they woulda been reported as dead from Covid).

Still, the "actual" death rate of SARS, MERS, the seasonal flu... get estimated by organizations such as WHO.

The same will happen with C19... well it's already happening, but their numbers fluctuate wildly right now.

A year from now they'll probably have numbers we can trust as much as their numbers for SARS, MERS, etc.

Considering who the director-general of the WHO is right now, I don't believe a thing that comes out with their stamp on it.