Just Not ready

[Topper]

Pierre isn't PM, he is leader of the opposition. He doesn't need to put forward how he plans to implement his policies until an election is called.

Will he face difficulties? Yes

He has talked of housing, freeing up Federal lands and pressuring Provincial and Municipal partners to do the same. He's talked of reducing the stifling regulation on development (tanker bans, long term downstream emissions test, streamlined environmental impact assessments). He's talked reducing the public sector through attrition.

Bayliss is interesting. I heard him speak a week or so ago and was impressed, but then there is the COVID/Ventilator cloud over his head that smells of two Randys.

The deep rot of corruption in this group of Liberals needs a wholesale cleansing and a change in leadership is only a start. It is Liberal corruption scandals that have lead to both Trudeau prorogations. First WE and now the green slush fund.

[rikster]

Guilbault, in a kiss of death, has endorsed Carney for leader of the Liberals because Carney is on the same page when it comes to taxing pollution. If you want to watch a weasel squirm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvKis12pbFU . The conservatives have to keep this guy in front of the media.

I didn't see a weasel squirming in that video...

Carbon tax is an issue I know very little about and haven't studied which I think puts me in with the vast majority of Canadians...

All parties recognize that climate change is real, the Conservative plan promises to meet Paris accord goals by 2030 by setting up a low carbon savings account which we pay into every time we purchase carbon and the savings can be used to buy things like electric cars?

Ok...how much more government bureaucrocy will that take to administer and what if I don't want a new car?

Guilbaults explaination is what is refered to as the 85/15 or 90/20 rule....No matter what the issue is some 15-20% of the population will disagree..

They are often the most vocal as is the case with PP's attacks against carbon tax, but because most Canadians don't understand the carbon tax policy or choose not to learn about it before casting an opinion, that 15-20% of the population has grown to levels that forced the Government to shut it down...

Whoever is the next leader needs to do a better job than the Liberals did of explaining their program...

But if PP is elected and rolls out his current climate change plan, you can be sure that most Canadians will be upset...

For me the biggest challenge is that North America made a bet years ago on cars while Europe and countries like Japan bet on rail....That turned out to be a very bad mistake that will be very costly for North America to fix....

Just spent a month in Japan where they bet on rail and what a difference...

Downtown Tokyo and the only cars on the streets are taxis and commercial vehicles which are either hybrids or hydrogen powered, while the rail system moves the vast majority of population to and from ....

The air is cleaner, the streets are quieter and travel is so much more efficient...makes the Conservatives plan of a carbon savings account look amatuerish...

The challenge facing North America to move away from private to public transit is huge, and with Trump in office for the next 4 years it will be even more challenging...

And speaking of Trump, the Conservative plan was based in part on working with the Biden administration so how will they adjust their plan now that a climate change denier is in the White House for the next 4 years?

[rikster]

Pierre isn't PM, he is leader of the opposition. He doesn't need to put forward how he plans to implement his policies until an election is called.

Will he face difficulties? Yes

He has talked of housing, freeing up Federal lands and pressuring Provincial and Municipal partners to do the same. He's talked of reducing the stifling regulation on development (tanker bans, long term downstream emissions test, streamlined environmental impact assessments). He's talked reducing the public sector through attrition.

Bayliss is interesting. I heard him speak a week or so ago and was impressed, but then there is the COVID/Ventilator cloud over his head that smells of two Randys.

The deep rot of corruption in this group of Liberals needs a wholesale cleansing and a change in leadership is only a start. It is Liberal corruption scandals that have lead to both Trudeau prorogations. First WE and now the green slush fund.

I'm not voting Liberal and I'm not voting PP....If I cast a vote its for either Carney or Bayliss and couldn't care about what Party they ran under...

Both are experienced and understand how to manage a multi billion dollar business which is what Canada's annual revenues are, unlike PP ...

15 years ago the Liberals were berrating PP and the Harper Government for unafordable housing and the cost of living...Today its the Conservatives doing the same to the Liberals...

We tried a drama teacher and it didn't work.... We should have learned our lesson, but today some want to elect a former newspaper carrier and life long politician ...

Using Federal lands for high density housing has been discussed for years in Canada and is now something the Americans under Trump are looking at doing, so its not a PP idea...

When we elected the drama teacher the economy was in much better shape than it is today so the stakes are much higher than ever to get someone in the job who will not be overwhelmed by the magnitude of the challenges...

Regarding attrition, I'm a fiscal conservative so that's something I support but remember in order to make major cuts in spending you will be cutting services and programs for much of your base and when the time comes to make that decison, does polling or good fiscal management rule the day?

We know what ruled JT's decision, I have no faith that it won't be the same with PP...

[Chef Boi RD]

Pierre Polievre is a weenie. Let’s be clear about that, no matter the party he represents, he’s a weasel.

[Topper]

This isn't satire

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/satire ... y-pipeline

[donlever]

Great read, lol'd a few times it would be funnier if it were not true.

[Meds]

So well written I actually became Blobcat level enraged by the end.

[Topper]

Liberal Party just banned Chandra Arya from running for leadership despite submitting his paper work and $50,000 Intel payment.

No reason given but there are very few conditions outlined in the Liberal Constitution for banning a candidate.

Is he an unnamed MP in the foreign interference report? Why was he allowed to run the times?

[Topper]

Word today that Indigenous Services Canada gave the Kamloops Bands $13M after the 215 geophysical anomalies were found to ground truth the discovery. The money was spent on PR consultants.

At the time I said they were nothing more than geophysical anomalies and to this day they remain the same. While news outlets and my son's school teachers were running with a story of mass child graves, I said we do not know what the anomalies are but if in fact they are graves, we do not know
- if they are human.
- what age at death.
- cause of death.
- year of death.

Remember the Movie "The Grey Fox", the story of Billy Miner. It was hailed as a period accurate portrayal. It took place in Kamloops in the early 1900's (1901/1902). Horse and buggy, stage coach, steam engine trains and a very rare auto mobile. The Kamloops residential school had been operating for 12 years by then and hadn't seen the epidemics of the 1920's yet.

[Chef Boi RD]

“Pandemic Level”

Trumpy Poo’s Tariffs

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politic ... usinesses/

Trump has shown a willingness to move swiftly on tariffs in recent days without allowing for drawn-out talks

https://www.wsj.com/world/americas/trum ... s-3ff27f14

Trumpy Poo!

Momentum is growing among President Trump’s advisers to place 25% tariffs on Mexico and Canada as soon as Saturday, bucking conventional wisdom in Washington and on Wall Street that he would back off the threatened levies as he has in the past in exchange for concessions.

The Canadian Trumpees must be joyous over their Trumpy Poo.

[Chef Boi RD]

You go get him, tiger

Speaking of cringe-worthy pandering, Canada’s prime minister in impatient waiting, Poilievre, was more muted in his criticism of his populist-stunt mentor, Trump.

An uncharacteristically subdued Poilievre droned on for more than 20 minutes in French and English about how the brewing trade dispute between Canada and the US was Trudeau’s irresponsible fault.

All Poilievre could summon from his brimming bag of school-yard epithets was that Trump’s potentially ruinous tariff hike was “unjustified”.

Boy, that’s telling him, tough guy.

Like the lifelong, calculating politician that he is, Poilievre pivoted instantly to condemn Trudeau for being caught unaware since “President Trump had been talking about it for years on the campaign trail”.

According to Poilievre, the villain in this trade drama is not Trump – a convicted villain – but Canada’s prime minister who visited Trump at his Florida Mar-a-Lago resort on Friday to mend, pardon me, fences.

Trump should have appointed Poilievre the next US ambassador to Canada given how eager a job he has been doing carrying the bully president-elect’s water.

Poilievre spent the next several minutes recycling his, by now, standard attack lines vilifying Trudeau.

He did not direct another word of condemnation towards Trump. Rather, incredibly, he defended the president-elect.

“Look, President Trump has the right to put his workers and his nation’s security first,” the MAGA fanboy said.

Pierre Poilievre is Donald Trump’s mini-me in Canada. What a disaster both countries confront in the not-too-distant offing.

[MOD EDIT: Quotation marks added, quote is from here: https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2024 ... t-violence More plagiarizing by Chef Boi RD]

[Meds]

Troll or idiot. Which are you Chef? The line is getting truly blurry.

[Chef Boi RD]

Troll or idiot. Which are you Chef? The line is getting truly blurry.

What you consider trolling is interesting. I do understand that this thread is a haven for the Make Canada Great Again crowd, but you could just chill out on the hyper sensitivity and roll with it some?

[Meds]

Troll or idiot. Which are you Chef? The line is getting truly blurry.

What you consider trolling is interesting. I do understand that this thread is a haven for the Make Canada Great Again crowd, but you could just chill out on the hyper sensitivity and roll with it some?

If you believe even half the stuff you write, you’re an idiot.

If you don’t, and you write it anyways, it’s trolling.

[UWSaint]

Curious on the board's thoughts -- did Trump's election contribute to Trudeau's decision to step down, and if so, how much and why? Put differently, had Harris been elected, do you believe Trudeau's decision or its timing would have been different.