Just Not ready

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UWSaint wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2025 10:45 am I am no expert on the Canadian economy, but the layman's view from south of the border is that its in a total shambles. Like approaching the point of no return.
Yes, there's a lot of things wrong with this country, some of which Mëds and topper point out, but to say it's in shambles? Isn't that a bit much? By traditional metrics such as employment and interest rates, things look don't look that unhealthy. Or is it the national debt that's reached a tipping point?
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5thhorseman wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2025 11:24 pm
UWSaint wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2025 10:45 am I am no expert on the Canadian economy, but the layman's view from south of the border is that its in a total shambles. Like approaching the point of no return.
Yes, there's a lot of things wrong with this country, some of which Mëds and topper point out, but to say it's in shambles? Isn't that a bit much? By traditional metrics such as employment and interest rates, things look don't look that unhealthy. Or is it the national debt that's reached a tipping point?
Contrast Canada today to Canada of the past. Yes, a shambles.

We are more divided than ever between east and west.

The divide between "indigenous and colonists" is louder than ever.

We have antisemitism rallies in our streets and it's ok.

What used to be traditional Canadian values are now persecuted.

Our education system is in the toilet.

Our healthcare is underfunded and overwhelmed.

Our public servant to citizen ration is off the charts bad.

Our resource sector is being targeted by the very government that should be protecting it.

Our military is perhaps in the worst state it has been in since WW1.

I could probably go on.....
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Mëds wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2025 12:30 am
5thhorseman wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2025 11:24 pm
UWSaint wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2025 10:45 am I am no expert on the Canadian economy, but the layman's view from south of the border is that its in a total shambles. Like approaching the point of no return.
Yes, there's a lot of things wrong with this country, some of which Mëds and topper point out, but to say it's in shambles? Isn't that a bit much? By traditional metrics such as employment and interest rates, things look don't look that unhealthy. Or is it the national debt that's reached a tipping point?
Contrast Canada today to Canada of the past. Yes, a shambles.

We are more divided than ever between east and west.

The divide between "indigenous and colonists" is louder than ever.

We have antisemitism rallies in our streets and it's ok.

What used to be traditional Canadian values are now persecuted.

Our education system is in the toilet.

Our healthcare is underfunded and overwhelmed.

Our public servant to citizen ration is off the charts bad.

Our resource sector is being targeted by the very government that should be protecting it.

Our military is perhaps in the worst state it has been in since WW1.

I could probably go on.....
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Mëds wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2025 12:30 am
5thhorseman wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2025 11:24 pm
UWSaint wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2025 10:45 am I am no expert on the Canadian economy, but the layman's view from south of the border is that its in a total shambles. Like approaching the point of no return.
Yes, there's a lot of things wrong with this country, some of which Mëds and topper point out, but to say it's in shambles? Isn't that a bit much? By traditional metrics such as employment and interest rates, things look don't look that unhealthy. Or is it the national debt that's reached a tipping point?
Contrast Canada today to Canada of the past. Yes, a shambles.

We are more divided than ever between east and west.

The divide between "indigenous and colonists" is louder than ever.

We have antisemitism rallies in our streets and it's ok.

What used to be traditional Canadian values are now persecuted.

Our education system is in the toilet.

Our healthcare is underfunded and overwhelmed.

Our public servant to citizen ration is off the charts bad.

Our resource sector is being targeted by the very government that should be protecting it.

Our military is perhaps in the worst state it has been in since WW1.

I could probably go on.....
None of those things are economic issues, or if they are they're marginal enough to not show up in the metrics we use to measure the health of the economy.

Security, healthcare, education, FM reconciliation, and culture issues exist, but they not economic.
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Dollar is hovering in the 69 - 70 cent range not seen since the mid 90's.

Low productivity.

The widening gap in per capita gdp between Canada and the US.
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I'm not too worried about our dollar. A low against USD would boost our exports and should be somewhat self-correcting (more exports -> economic boom -> inflation -> raised interest rates -> stronger dollar). Trump tariffs would complicate that picture.

The GDP per capita is more concerning. Looking at the pure figures (without comparison to the US), we have not recovered to pre-pandemic levels. That said, we've seen drops like this before (since the '80s) and got back on trend. We'll have to wait and see.

Nothing to indicate the economy is in shambles though.
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5th is hands down the mic dropper here. Nobody can compete. Topper needs to stand down, his retorts are like reading a mining prospectus. Dry as fuck. He’s lost his joy. He’s a blank canvass while 5th is Salvador Dali.
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It's only my opinion Dude.

Chill.
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5thhorseman wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2025 9:29 am It's only my opinion Dude.

Chill.
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Topper wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2025 8:24 am Dollar is hovering in the 69 - 70 cent range not seen since the mid 90's.

Low productivity.

The widening gap in per capita gdp between Canada and the US.
It seems fairly stable compared to the Euro at least:
https://wise.com/gb/currency-converter/ ... te/history
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5thhorseman wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2025 8:55 am I'm not too worried about our dollar. A low against USD would boost our exports and should be self-correcting (more exports -> economic boom -> inflation -> raised interest rates -> stronger dollar).
Yeah.

Don’t worry about it. The budget will balance itself.
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Mëds wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2025 10:41 am
5thhorseman wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2025 8:55 am I'm not too worried about our dollar. A low against USD would boost our exports and should be self-correcting (more exports -> economic boom -> inflation -> raised interest rates -> stronger dollar).
Yeah.

Don’t worry about it. The budget will balance itself.
What does the USD/CAD rate have to do with the budget?
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5thhorseman wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2025 10:58 am
Mëds wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2025 10:41 am
5thhorseman wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2025 8:55 am I'm not too worried about our dollar. A low against USD would boost our exports and should be self-correcting (more exports -> economic boom -> inflation -> raised interest rates -> stronger dollar).
Yeah.

Don’t worry about it. The budget will balance itself.
What does the USD/CAD rate have to do with the budget?
The fact that I'd have to explain it to you tells me it was spot on.
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Mëds wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2025 11:08 am
5thhorseman wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2025 10:58 am
Mëds wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2025 10:41 am
5thhorseman wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2025 8:55 am I'm not too worried about our dollar. A low against USD would boost our exports and should be self-correcting (more exports -> economic boom -> inflation -> raised interest rates -> stronger dollar).
Yeah.

Don’t worry about it. The budget will balance itself.
What does the USD/CAD rate have to do with the budget?
The fact that I'd have to explain it to you tells me it was spot on.
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