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Re: Canucks Young Guns
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2026 8:29 am
by Tciso
If the cap rises as expected, Buium will be paid like a scrub in his last year.
2034-35 - $9,380,000 5.5% cap
Right now, on CapWages, 5.5% is around 70th overall for defense men. That will be insanely cheap for a top pair dman. (especially once OEL and scooter are off the books)
Re: Canucks Young Guns
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2026 8:37 am
by Hockey Widow
DPetety is eligible to sign now too. Wonder if they are talking to his camp. I see him more as a 2-3 million 2-4 year type deal. Next July 1st we have Willander that we can extend but max 7 seasons. Will be interesting to watch these two continue t delvelope and see what we sign them too.
To me DPetey is a bottom pairing guy.
Re: Canucks Young Guns
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2026 8:47 am
by Madcombinepilot
Hockey Widow wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2026 8:37 am
DPetety is eligible to sign now too. Wonder if they are talking to his camp. I see him more as a 2-3 million 2-4 year type deal. Next July 1st we have Willander that we can extend but max 7 seasons. Will be interesting to watch these two continue t delvelope and see what we sign them too.
To me DPetey is a bottom pairing guy.
I agree that Dpetey doesn't project as a top pairing, but I think all of the defense looks worse after last years fuckening from a systems point of view..
Re: Canucks Young Guns
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2026 9:12 am
by donlever
Interesting words from RJ when queried re the Zeev deal...
"If you asked 5 years ago if I would have considered this, no. But I didn't want to get caught up in archaic thinking. I wanted to get aggressive...knowing where the landscape is going."
Re: Canucks Young Guns
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2026 9:21 am
by 5thhorseman
"If you asked 5 years ago if I would have considered this, no.
Seems one could say that about almost any deal at any time. Salaries are always going up and 5 years is a long time.
Re: Canucks Young Guns
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2026 10:14 am
by rats19
5thhorseman wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2026 9:21 am
"If you asked 5 years ago if I would have considered this, no.
Seems one could say that about almost any deal at any time. Salaries are always going up and 5 years is a long time.
Bland…
Re: Canucks Young Guns
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2026 10:38 am
by Tciso
5thhorseman wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2026 9:21 am
"If you asked 5 years ago if I would have considered this, no.
Seems one could say that about almost any deal at any time. Salaries are always going up and 5 years is a long time.
I interpreted him meaning 5 years ago, he would never give an 8 year contract to a kid with under a full season of games, and a year left in his ECL.
But, 3 offer sheets later (Holloway and Broberg and Carlson), GMs are trading offer sheet risk and breakout season risk against early signing of a kid which stagnates and underperforms risk.
Re: Canucks Young Guns
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2026 11:11 am
by donlever
Yeah...moreso that.
Also the working within the current times and pro-active nature of the deal as compared to some of the delayed tactics/odd moves of the last group.
Re: Canucks Young Guns
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2026 2:00 pm
by Ronning's Ghost
rats19 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2026 3:10 am
This offseason has been different. I don’t feel we are led by retrds anymore… it feels like we have a direction with purpose…
I feel the same way.
Notwithstanding Lever's no-doubt accurate assertion the all Canucks fans, qua Canucks fas, are delusionally optimistic, I am pleased to read that someone else thinks they're seeing the same things I think I'm seeing.
This contrasts starkly with my experience on this board during the Benning administration.
Re: Canucks Young Guns
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2026 2:36 pm
by donlever
I believe, RG, that there is an "upswell" of some form of positivity with the way things are going, at least to some.....
donlever wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2026 5:11 pm
Credit to new Management for making a statement and getting this done.
It "feels", at least, as though these new fucking guys have a plan and intend to implement it.
The success thereof remains to be seen clearly.
I still stand by the "Demko Hope's and Dreams" as fairly delusional and remain firm on that.
Hope I'm wrong for y'alls sake.
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Re: Canucks Young Guns
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2026 3:53 pm
by Topper
What choice did they have?
The key piece in the Hughes trade.
Move on from him?
Lowball him and piss him off?
Re: Canucks Young Guns
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2026 4:26 pm
by Ronning's Ghost
Topper wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2026 3:53 pm
What choice did they have?
OK, yeah, it's not exactly genius-level strategic innovation or execution, but past management teams would not have felt constrained by "every other option is stupid".
Re: Canucks Young Guns
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2026 4:46 pm
by donlever
Choices are choices....
Other Management teams had choices and picked the wrong ones....like signing EP, Lankinen, Boeser, Louis Eriksson or drafting Juloevi or Virtanen as but a few samples.
These fucking guys had a draft plan and succeeded by all reports and made the right choice with Buium irrespective of our thoughts as to how "easy" that was....
Those are positive, albeit baby steps.....
Hey, I wanted Evan Gold to get hired and in no way, shape or form do I have huge faith in TNFG's by any means.
But the right steps are the right steps.
Re: Canucks Young Guns
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2026 5:58 pm
by 5thhorseman
Tciso wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2026 10:38 am
5thhorseman wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2026 9:21 am
"If you asked 5 years ago if I would have considered this, no.
Seems one could say that about almost any deal at any time. Salaries are always going up and 5 years is a long time.
I interpreted him meaning 5 years ago, he would never give an 8 year contract to a kid with under a full season of games, and a year left in his ECL.
But, 3 offer sheets later (Holloway and Broberg and Carlson), GMs are trading offer sheet risk and breakout season risk against early signing of a kid which stagnates and underperforms risk.
Hughes 129 games vs Zeev's 80 games. Both a year left on their ELC. Not a lot of difference but I get your point, offer sheets have certainly raised the stakes and credit to RJ for recognising that. I'm hoping the low profile and expectations will lead to under-the-radar success.
Re: Canucks Young Guns
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2026 6:07 pm
by Tciso
Some dude on Canucks Army is asking if they should start pissing the bed just yet, as Medvedev had a rough start to the first game this camp in London. He's 18 ffs.
Some fans are retarded.