Canucks News N Notes 25-26

[Strangelove]

Guess we can stop talking about Arvidsson and start talking about Evander Kane - he's now a Nuck.

Topper is gonna love this one!

I hear Eastvander has reformed.

A dedicated family man now who is great in the community.

Hey, we got the top-6 asshole we were looking for, now let's see that centre baldies!

[BCExpat]

I saw this on Calpuck:

"Going from Brock Boeser to Evander Kane is like trading in a golden retriever for a raccoon in a leather jacket"

[Nuckertuzzi]

Have a feeling the tune will change pretty quickly on Kane if/when he steps up to the next clown who touches Quinn. Whether you think he's a tough guy or a pretender it really doesn't matter, he will get in there and I think that's all we really want to see.

A couple of games from last year still linger in my mind. The one in Washington when PLD had his way with Quinn and again in Calgary when Lomberg did the same thing. There was no answer. Zero. If we see something like that again, the moment Kane steps up I'm pretty sure we're all gonna get on his side instantly. I don't give a shit if he does something stupid. Get suspended, whatever. Just do something. Would've loved to see him get in those fuckers faces.

[Cousin Strawberry]

^ This right here. ^

Good post

The depth of pussy-ness has been nothing short of shocking for us fans for more than a decade. Something drastic had to be done and if it means eastvander Kane rolling around in a purple rolls Royce throwing cash bricks at Hoes the so be it. I don't give a fuck

Everyone all worried about this culture nonsense....look at what team nice guys have come up with. They need some bastards who can hack and whack. I'm sick of the soeedbaggings

I also read they're going to sign Sammy Blaze to try and crack the big club. Good move

I wonder if Foote has started to bend the old cotton mouth raisins ear on getting some nuts into the forward ranks

[Canuckbröd]

never really a fan of Eastvander but hey,

a 4th round pick (or Podz) for a top 6 asshole who's guaranteed to output 20+ goals and 50-60 points;

comes 5.6 mill / year for 1 year

a homegrown asshole

sounds pretty good to me.

The fact that he immediately becomes our best top 6 winger tells the story.

A great gamble imo.

[JelloPuddingPop]

Agreed - I think this is making the best of the situation. No good options in free agency, not much help coming from the farm, every trade partner seems to be asking for Willander/D.Petey + 15th OA. Steep price to pay.

Next year a much better UFA crop, perhaps more sellers... good stop gap.

Like the asshole factor too

[5thhorseman]

So then, how do you approach next season? I would give Silovs the longest look in preseason to hopefully get a sense, then start him in the minors (assuming you can do this before he's claimable, not sure).

Players subject to waivers can't just be started in the minors. They have to pass through waivers after not making the team. So trade him or one of the other goalies, or carry three goalies. Those are the options. I can see them carrying all three but only temporarily until a trade is worked out. Of course, another injury to Demko I would change everything.

[Cornuck]

The fact that he immediately becomes our best top 6 winger tells the story.

A sad fact - and if he's here for the season, let's hope he here to impress home town fans and other GMs for his next contract.

[rikster]

The fact that he immediately becomes our best top 6 winger tells the story.

A sad fact - and if he's here for the season, let's hope he here to impress home town fans and other GMs for his next contract.

Not sure he's the teams best winger but having a true power forward on the team again puts a smile on my face...

Was hoping that Jamie Benn would return home to sign his swan song contract to join Evander....oh well....

With a number of promotions from the farm to the parent team expected this season and the team lacking any type of protection for them, they need more Kane type of players and like most players of his ilk they can come with some baggage...

Embrace the baggage...

Take care...

[UWSaint]

So then, how do you approach next season? I would give Silovs the longest look in preseason to hopefully get a sense, then start him in the minors (assuming you can do this before he's claimable, not sure).

Players subject to waivers can't just be started in the minors. They have to pass through waivers after not making the team. So trade him or one of the other goalies, or carry three goalies. Those are the options. I can see them carrying all three but only temporarily until a trade is worked out. Of course, another injury to Demko I would change everything.

I think the Lankinen signing is poor management on so many levels. I won't go through all the obvious ones but want to point out how it illustrates a perspective problem with this management group -- and that is they are hedging against catastrophic failure instead of taking risks that would allow for greater success. Or put otherwise, that they plan for failure instead of success. Demko *might* not be healthy, Silovs *might* not be NHL caliber. So pay for the insurance (at a premium, no less) to establish mediocrity as a floor. But given the size (and inflexibility) of the Lankinen contract, the Canucks are now backed into (1) trading an all star caliber goalie when healthy (into a market only to teams who need a goalie and have a plan b); (2) trading a top prospect goalie (into a market for prospect goalies that is notoriously soft); (3) risking losing Silovs for nothing; $4) carrying 3 goalies which, absent Demko being on the LTIR, isn't good for any of them.

IMO, the obvious thing to do with a team where the Canucks are today (needing + level goaltending for success) is to keep the best goalie and the goalie with a high future ceiling who's proven as much as you could have ever reasonably expected before waivers kick in-- maybe a guy with holes in his game, but one who has shown up on big big stages and has the mentality needed for success if he ever mastered technique. 50% chance Demko is healthy -- win. 50% chance Silovs is average or better if Demko's health is poor (win -- or at least as good as Lankinen). 25% bad health and Silovs is poor -- catastrophic loss. Having Lankinen only helps to mitigate the size of the downside risk in that last scenario, but that risk mitigated isn't making a team that can go anywhere in the playoffs on the off chance they'd get there with Lankinen as the primary starter.

It was a dumb signing given where the Canucks were. It might have been reasonable if the Canucks only needed average goaltending, but that's just not how things sit.

[Nuckertuzzi]

Great post UWS, totally agree... and thanks for clearing up the Silovs eligibility, 5th.

I might have more of a response later, for now still like to know if Lank has an NMC. If so, it makes the signing even more irresponsible.

[Tciso]

I saw this on Calpuck:

"Going from Brock Boeser to Evander Kane is like trading in a golden retriever for a raccoon in a leather jacket"

In the playoffs, the raccoon will get ya farther.

[UWSaint]

Great post UWS, totally agree... and thanks for clearing up the Silovs eligibility, 5th.

I might have more of a response later, for now still like to know if Lank has an NMC. If so, it makes the signing even more irresponsible.

According to PuckPedia, he has a no movement clause for the first two years; limited no trade clause for the final 3 years. So for two years (begining Tuesday) he can't be waived to the minors or traded without his consent. No movement is particularly troubling. There is a history of goalies showing up for a year or two and turning into a pumpkin, or backups playing like starters for a season, and then their game declines. Petersen. Georgiev. Samsonov. Driedger.

[Blob Mckenzie]

never really a fan of Eastvander but hey,

a 4th round pick (or Podz) for a top 6 asshole who's guaranteed to output 20+ goals and 50-60 points;

comes 5.6 mill / year for 1 year

a homegrown asshole

sounds pretty good to me.

The fact that he immediately becomes our best top 6 winger tells the story.

A great gamble imo.

5.1 million for the year. They needed a dink. They can use another one.


Canucks Army saying they have 8.5 million in cap. Shoot Hoglander down to the Sharks for a 3rd. Buyout Chytl and the number goes up substantially.

[Hockey Widow]

What Chytle plus Hoglander won't get you a top six centre????