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Chef Boi RD wrote: ↑Fri Jun 19, 2020 5:34 am Remember guys, Doyle was tearing Benning and Lind new ones all season during Linds rookie campaign for the Canucks selecting Lind over Hague. All. Season. Long. Doyle hated Lind. Called him out for his struggles as a rookie, saying he’s an absolute bust. It was a horrendous assault on a rookie. A barrage of weaponry fired at Lind’s rookie season.

Doyle Hargraves wrote: ↑Fri Jun 19, 2020 6:06 am

Chef Boi RD wrote: ↑Fri Jun 19, 2020 5:34 am Remember guys, Doyle was tearing Benning and Lind new ones all season during Linds rookie campaign for the Canucks selecting Lind over Hague. All. Season. Long. Doyle hated Lind. Called him out for his struggles as a rookie, saying he’s an absolute bust. It was a horrendous assault on a rookie. A barrage of weaponry fired at Lind’s rookie season.

Funny I just looked at my posts during his rookie season.

I made one post saying that he had a terrible rookie season and another one saying that he and Jonah Gadjovich were developing at a snail’s pace. I did and still do prefer Hague, so what. So would most people.

Your post is a pile of pus much like yourself. Don’t let the truth get in the way of your narrative.

Curmudgeon wrote: ↑Fri Jun 19, 2020 7:14 am

Doyle Hargraves wrote: ↑Fri Jun 19, 2020 6:06 am

Chef Boi RD wrote: ↑Fri Jun 19, 2020 5:34 am Remember guys, Doyle was tearing Benning and Lind new ones all season during Linds rookie campaign for the Canucks selecting Lind over Hague. All. Season. Long. Doyle hated Lind. Called him out for his struggles as a rookie, saying he’s an absolute bust. It was a horrendous assault on a rookie. A barrage of weaponry fired at Lind’s rookie season.

Funny I just looked at my posts during his rookie season.

I made one post saying that he had a terrible rookie season and another one saying that he and Jonah Gadjovich were developing at a snail’s pace. I did and still do prefer Hague, so what. So would most people.

Your post is a pile of pus much like yourself. Don’t let the truth get in the way of your narrative.

Hague at least has NHL games under his belt and for a pretty good team too. Another defenseman I was hoping they'd look at was Dylan Samberg and he ended up getting picked by the Jets ten slots later. Lind may work out but they are jammed on the right wing and positionally need way more irons in the fire on defense.

It will be interesting to see how Hoglander turns out in comparison to Kaedan Korczak, a RHD who was also selected by Vegas immediately after the Canucks pick.

Doyle Hargraves wrote: ↑Fri Jun 19, 2020 7:26 am

Curmudgeon wrote: ↑Fri Jun 19, 2020 7:14 am

Doyle Hargraves wrote: ↑Fri Jun 19, 2020 6:06 am

Chef Boi RD wrote: ↑Fri Jun 19, 2020 5:34 am Remember guys, Doyle was tearing Benning and Lind new ones all season during Linds rookie campaign for the Canucks selecting Lind over Hague. All. Season. Long. Doyle hated Lind. Called him out for his struggles as a rookie, saying he’s an absolute bust. It was a horrendous assault on a rookie. A barrage of weaponry fired at Lind’s rookie season.

Funny I just looked at my posts during his rookie season.

I made one post saying that he had a terrible rookie season and another one saying that he and Jonah Gadjovich were developing at a snail’s pace. I did and still do prefer Hague, so what. So would most people.

Your post is a pile of pus much like yourself. Don’t let the truth get in the way of your narrative.

Hague at least has NHL games under his belt and for a pretty good team too. Another defenseman I was hoping they'd look at was Dylan Samberg and he ended up getting picked by the Jets ten slots later. Lind may work out but they are jammed on the right wing and positionally need way more irons in the fire on defense.

It will be interesting to see how Hoglander turns out in comparison to Kaedan Korczak, a RHD who was also selected by Vegas immediately after the Canucks pick.

In the first round I think most managers subscribe to the BPA philosophy. After that if the players on the board are close in ability maybe lean towards a position of need. This is why myself and others harped about acquiring extra picks the past few years. More picks= more chances to build the system up.

The D is a black hole for sure. Benning will need to trade from a position of strength to address the dearth of talent on the back end.

The Brown Wizard wrote: ↑Fri Jun 19, 2020 8:06 am Myers will prove his value in a playoff series. He may not be a fighter but is a strong man who can lay the odd devastating hit

The Brown Wizard wrote: ↑Fri Jun 19, 2020 7:20 am Hoglander might be a flashy enough chip to play to acquire that coveted dman curmy. U never know who might go full milbury if a shiny trinket is dangled close enough

The Brown Wizard wrote: ↑Fri Jun 19, 2020 8:06 am Myers will prove his value in a playoff series. He may not be a fighter but is a strong man who can lay the odd devastating hit

Curmudgeon wrote: ↑Fri Jun 19, 2020 9:39 am

The Brown Wizard wrote: ↑Fri Jun 19, 2020 8:06 am Myers will prove his value in a playoff series. He may not be a fighter but is a strong man who can lay the odd devastating hit

I meant signing Myers isn't as critical and shouldn't have cost what it did if they would have drafted better versus not signing him at all. Right now he's tied for 13 highest paid RHD and tied for 22nd overall for defensemen and that's an overpay.

Curmudgeon wrote: ↑Fri Jun 19, 2020 7:14 am

Doyle Hargraves wrote: ↑Fri Jun 19, 2020 6:06 am

Chef Boi RD wrote: ↑Fri Jun 19, 2020 5:34 am Remember guys, Doyle was tearing Benning and Lind new ones all season during Linds rookie campaign for the Canucks selecting Lind over Hague. All. Season. Long. Doyle hated Lind. Called him out for his struggles as a rookie, saying he’s an absolute bust. It was a horrendous assault on a rookie. A barrage of weaponry fired at Lind’s rookie season.

Funny I just looked at my posts during his rookie season.

I made one post saying that he had a terrible rookie season and another one saying that he and Jonah Gadjovich were developing at a snail’s pace. I did and still do prefer Hague, so what. So would most people.

Your post is a pile of pus much like yourself. Don’t let the truth get in the way of your narrative.

Hague at least has NHL games under his belt and for a pretty good team too. Another defenseman I was hoping they'd look at was Dylan Samberg and he ended up getting picked by the Jets ten slots later. Lind may work out but they are jammed on the right wing and positionally need way more irons in the fire on defense.

It will be interesting to see how Hoglander turns out in comparison to Kaedan Korczak, a RHD who was also selected by Vegas immediately after the Canucks pick.

Doyle Hargraves wrote: ↑Fri Jun 19, 2020 10:12 am

Curmudgeon wrote: ↑Fri Jun 19, 2020 9:39 am

The Brown Wizard wrote: ↑Fri Jun 19, 2020 8:06 am Myers will prove his value in a playoff series. He may not be a fighter but is a strong man who can lay the odd devastating hit

I meant signing Myers isn't as critical and shouldn't have cost what it did if they would have drafted better versus not signing him at all. Right now he's tied for 13 highest paid RHD and tied for 22nd overall for defensemen and that's an overpay.

Considering he’s getting top pairing type money when he’s a decent second pairing guy, yes it is an overpayment. But they needed a RH shot and most UFA are overpaid. I have less problem with Myers’ contract than Eriksson’s, Sutter’s, Beagle’s or Roussel’s. But having Myers make that money, and factoring in Hughes’s next deal, there’s no fucking way they are shelling out on a legit top pairing RH shot in UFA in the next few years like Petro or Jones. They will need to address the D cheaply and to start drafting more D men. Pretty bizarre they didn’t pick even one D man last year.

Curmudgeon wrote: ↑Fri Jun 19, 2020 9:39 am

The Brown Wizard wrote: ↑Fri Jun 19, 2020 8:06 am Myers will prove his value in a playoff series. He may not be a fighter but is a strong man who can lay the odd devastating hit

I meant signing Myers isn't as critical and shouldn't have cost what it did if they would have drafted better versus not signing him at all. Right now he's tied for 13 highest paid RHD and tied for 22nd overall for defensemen and that's an overpay.

The Brown Wizard wrote: ↑Fri Jun 19, 2020 1:31 pm

Curmudgeon wrote: ↑Fri Jun 19, 2020 9:39 am

The Brown Wizard wrote: ↑Fri Jun 19, 2020 8:06 am Myers will prove his value in a playoff series. He may not be a fighter but is a strong man who can lay the odd devastating hit

I meant signing Myers isn't as critical and shouldn't have cost what it did if they would have drafted better versus not signing him at all. Right now he's tied for 13 highest paid RHD and tied for 22nd overall for defensemen and that's an overpay.

I contest that his value cant be quantified without seeing the full body of his work...which includes a physical playoff series.

An actual "top pairing" dman is worth closer to 7 or 8 in my opinion and Myers coming in at 6 is right about where a UFA 2nd pairing guy would sign.

Legit top pairing dmen are like Carlson, Josi, Jones, Reilly, Hughes,etc...not your Edlers, Tanevs or whatever the canucks have pawned on their fans as top pairing guys over the years(before Hughes came along obviously)