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Chef Boi RD wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2024 6:18 am Benning - The Unsung Hero of this team. He deserves those kind of accolades. No GM, I repeat No GM in the Canucks pantheon of GM’s has ever managed this level of a trifecta:

No. 1 centre - Demko
No. 1 D-man - Hughes (first Canuck Norris trophy winner)
No. 1 Goalie - Demko

Along with

An enviable no. 2 centre - Miller
At top elite winger - Boeser
And a goalie of the future - Silovs

No GM has ever reached those heights. Unbelievable! I’m outside of myself, flabbergasted by it all. Genius
Damn, can't wait until we see this new #1 centre! Maybe the Canucks can now trade Petey for a hull.
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theman wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2024 8:19 am
Chef Boi RD wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2024 6:18 am Benning - The Unsung Hero of this team. He deserves those kind of accolades. No GM, I repeat No GM in the Canucks pantheon of GM’s has ever managed this level of a trifecta:

No. 1 centre - Demko
No. 1 D-man - Hughes (first Canuck Norris trophy winner)
No. 1 Goalie - Demko

Along with

An enviable no. 2 centre - Miller
At top elite winger - Boeser
And a goalie of the future - Silovs

No GM has ever reached those heights. Unbelievable! I’m outside of myself, flabbergasted by it all. Genius
Damn, can't wait until we see this new #1 centre! Maybe the Canucks can now trade Petey for a hull.
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theman wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2024 8:19 am
Chef Boi RD wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2024 6:18 am Benning - The Unsung Hero of this team. He deserves those kind of accolades. No GM, I repeat No GM in the Canucks pantheon of GM’s has ever managed this level of a trifecta:

No. 1 centre - Demko
No. 1 D-man - Hughes (first Canuck Norris trophy winner)
No. 1 Goalie - Demko

Along with

An enviable no. 2 centre - Miller
At top elite winger - Boeser
And a goalie of the future - Silovs

No GM has ever reached those heights. Unbelievable! I’m outside of myself, flabbergasted by it all. Genius
Damn, can't wait until we see this new #1 centre! Maybe the Canucks can now trade Petey for a hull.
Brett or Bobby?
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Sigh.... Dude you make it tough buds.

Elmer absolutely shit his pants on 3/5 top 10 picks. Forget the other shit. He duffed 2014/16/19. That's where most teams are built.
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Blob Mckenzie wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2024 4:48 am Sigh.... Dude you make it tough buds.

Elmer absolutely shit his pants on 3/5 top 10 picks. Forget the other shit. He duffed 2014/16/19. That's where most teams are built.
If you say so....

The 2014 draft, historically the 6th overall pick has a 37% chance of playing 300 games and gaining 300 points in their career...

While Virtanen played 300 games he didn't come close to 300 points...

But the 24th overall picks historically have a 38% chance of playing 300 games and a 20% chance of gaining 300 points, so McCann was a home run pick...

And then you had Demko and Forsling from that draft so why you wouldn't give it an A+ is surprising...

The 2016 draft was a bust, with the 5th overall historically having a 68% chance of playing 300 games and a 32% chance of earning 300 points...

Or was Juolevi just a victim of bad luck with injuries? He started his AHL career with 13 points in 18 games before injuring his knee and before that his back and then another knee surgery and then a hip issue?

The 2019 draft is too early to rate in my view...

Historically the 10th overall pick has a 54% chance of playing 300 games and a 21% chance of earning 300 points, will Podkolziin get there?...

2nd round picks historically have a 25% chance of playing 300 games and a 10% chance of earning 300 points, so Hoglander looks to be a good pick at 40th overall ....

6th round picks have a 9% chance of playing 300 games so Silvos in round 6 looks to be a good pick...

But at the end of the day, the vast number of picks each draft turn out to be JAG's, with a small % turning out to be difference makers and an even smaller % turning out to be elite..

Expecting a GM to outperform years of historical results is just wishful thinking ...

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2014

5th OA - Dal Colle bust
6th OA - Virtanen bust
7th OA - Fleury bust

2016

2nd OA - Laine disappointment
3rd OA - Dubios extreme head case
4th OA - Puljiarvi bust
5th OA - Juolevi bust

2019

8th OA Broberg disappointment
9th OA Zegras head case
10th OA Podkolzin disappointment
11th OA Soderstrom disappointment

Shit happens when drafting teenagers, Blob. Your boi Kenny Holland (Zadina, Broberg?) look at Hollands drafting over the last decade, it’s been horrendous. Blake? Turcotte?

2014 - McCann, Demko, Forsling
2015 - Boeser
2017 - Pettersson
2018 - Hughes
2019 - Hoglander, Silovs
2020 - turns 20th OA into JT Miller

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Sigh..... I specifically mentioned top 10 picks.

Managers need to bury those chances. Not all of them but 2/5 is unacceptable, especially when he fucks up the rest of the job.

One of Boldy, Nylander or Little Walt and they have a cup. The WHOLE FUCKING RINK BOOED THE FUCKUP IN 2016. The entire league laughed at the boozer stumbling around picking a turd 5th overall.
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Elmer was 2 for 4 on top 9 picks though Bloberella!

In fact he absolutely knocked it out of the park on those two.

Two superstars, one at 5th overall and one at 7th, amazing.

BTW, what's he cooking up there, that smoke detector in your head is deafening!
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Blob Mckenzie wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2024 4:48 am

Elmer absolutely shit his pants on 3/5 top 10 picks. Forget the other shit. He duffed 2014/16/19. That's where most teams are built.
For the tards.
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Strangelove wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2024 7:21 pm Elmer was 2 for 4 on top 9 picks though Bloberella!

In fact he absolutely knocked it out of the park on those two.

Two superstars, one at 5th overall and one at 7th, amazing.

BTW, what's he cooking up there, that smoke detector in your head is deafening!
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:lol:

It never goes away does it!

Amazing commitment by Blobert
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I'm gonna ask my buddy Elmer to piss on Blob's grave one day.
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Cousin Strawberry wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2024 8:35 pm :lol:

It never goes away does it!

Amazing commitment by Blobert
Doc is like Dana Murzyn. He always shows up but he gets tuned up pretty good for the most part.

Like the other thread.... It's pretty clear what I was saying..., but he twists it in a knot. Now I've got a coked up old construction worker, a 90 year old season ticket holder from the island who either rides the ferry to all the games, or his jet boat, maybe swims or hops a bird and Doc107 and none of these three idiots can stay with the point of top 10 picks. Pretty cunning crowd here. Might have enough brain cells to arm an ape between the three of them.
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Blob Mckenzie wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2024 9:41 pm
Cousin Strawberry wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2024 8:35 pm :lol:

It never goes away does it!

Amazing commitment by Blobert
Doc is like Dana Murzyn. He always shows up but he gets tuned up pretty good for the most part.

Like the other thread.... It's pretty clear what I was saying..., but he twists it in a knot. Now I've got a coked up old construction worker, a 90 year old season ticket holder from the island who either rides the ferry to all the games, or his jet boat, maybe swims or hops a bird and Doc107 and none of these three idiots can stay with the point of top 10 picks. Pretty cunning crowd here. Might have enough brain cells to arm an ape between the three of them.
lol...touche!

When you review the draft in hindsight, there are some interesting stats...

For example;

2021 Draft

9 first round picks have played over 50 games and 11 have yet to play a game ...

2 second round picks have played over 50 games and 21 have yet to play a game...

2 third round picks have played a NHL game for a total of 11 games

5 players from rounds 4 thru 7 have played an NHL game

Total drafted players to play in NHL - 38

% to play in NHL - 17


2020 Draft

4 second round picks have played over 50 games..

1 third round pick has played over 50 games..

14 players drafted in rounds 4 thru 7 have played NHL games with 1 playing over 50 games...

Total drafted players to play in NHL - 72

% to play in NHL - 33.3

2019 Draft

9 first round picks have either not played or have played less than 50 games...

Podkolzin was picked 10th overall and ranks 17th in games played amongst 1st round picks...9 first round picks have played less than 50 NHL games..

13 second round picks have played more than 50 NHL games...

3 third round picks have played more than 50 NHL games...

8 picks between the 4th and 7th rounds have played more than 50 games...

Total drafted players to play in NHL - 86

% to play in NHL - 39.6

2016 Draft

There were very few misses in the 1st round by any team, only 3 picks playing less NHL games than Juolevi and 6 who have played less than 100 NHL games...

Looking back on the first round, the half empty looks at the Juolevi pick as a mistake while the half full sez damn, if only he could have stayed healthy....

What does all of this mean? Not much other than expecting a GM to hit on every 1st round pick, let alone later picks is just a tad naive?...

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