Re: Just Not ready
Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2024 3:57 pm
Did any of you watch Justin on Stephen Colbert last night?
If so... dafock dude?
If so... dafock dude?
I've always considered ethics and morals to be rather bedrock in terms of importance.....I would posit that we do know what they should be, however we don't have time to game out every conceivable scenario with new technologies before some are replaced.5thhorseman wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2024 10:00 amIt's more than about lack of time to apply ethics, it's that we haven't even realised the impact of said technology to understand what our ethics should be, and to enact laws to put guardrails in place.Mëds wrote: ↑Mon Sep 23, 2024 10:42 pmProbably one of the first things I've heard that asshat (Trudeau, not 5th5thhorseman wrote: ↑Mon Sep 23, 2024 5:36 pm Wordy, but not a word salad. He's saying that technological innovation is moving so fast nowadays that our ethics are unable to keep up. Not a new thought.) say that I can agree with.
Although I got a kick out of him talking about us doing things without considering the consequences.![]()
When you say "ethics are unable to keep up". Are you meaning that we don't have time to theoretically apply them to the end point prior to deployment of the given innovation?
Ethics is the application of morals to situations, so it actually is the "gaming out of every conceivable scenario.". Maybe the FB example was an obvious decision, but that doesn't mean other ethical decisions are just as easy. Where did FB actually cross the line into addictiveness. Infinite scrolling? Personalized content? Likes? Don't candy and chocolate bar manufacturers also try to make their products as addictive as possible for the sake of profit? What's the difference?Mëds wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2024 5:13 pmI've always considered ethics and morals to be rather bedrock in terms of importance.....I would posit that we do know what they should be, however we don't have time to game out every conceivable scenario with new technologies before some are replaced.5thhorseman wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2024 10:00 amIt's more than about lack of time to apply ethics, it's that we haven't even realised the impact of said technology to understand what our ethics should be, and to enact laws to put guardrails in place.Mëds wrote: ↑Mon Sep 23, 2024 10:42 pmProbably one of the first things I've heard that asshat (Trudeau, not 5th5thhorseman wrote: ↑Mon Sep 23, 2024 5:36 pm Wordy, but not a word salad. He's saying that technological innovation is moving so fast nowadays that our ethics are unable to keep up. Not a new thought.) say that I can agree with.
Although I got a kick out of him talking about us doing things without considering the consequences.![]()
When you say "ethics are unable to keep up". Are you meaning that we don't have time to theoretically apply them to the end point prior to deployment of the given innovation?
The morality and the the ethical implications of what Facebook was doing (your example) was not something that we didn't have time to figure out. One of FB's co-founders admitted that they knew what they were doing even though they denied it, even to themselves, at first. Tell me how ethics needed to be figured out when it comes to intentionally designing something to be addictive for the sake of profit (or worse, control)? Seems straightforward, you don't do that unless you are severely lacking in the ethics department.
Topper wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2024 7:16 am Brilliant, even if it is illegal in California
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