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Re: Just Not ready

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2024 3:57 pm
by Strangelove
Did any of you watch Justin on Stephen Colbert last night?

If so... dafock dude? :crazy:

Re: Just Not ready

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2024 4:09 pm
by Topper
Foreign interference.

Green room with Ru Paul.

Squirming in his chair when asked why his career as a teacher ended.

Re: Just Not ready

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2024 4:33 pm
by Strangelove
Should have asked him about blackface and shown the pictures.

Re: Just Not ready

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2024 5:13 pm
by Meds
5thhorseman wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2024 10:00 am
Mëds wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 10:42 pm
5thhorseman wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 5:36 pm Wordy, but not a word salad. He's saying that technological innovation is moving so fast nowadays that our ethics are unable to keep up. Not a new thought.
Probably one of the first things I've heard that asshat (Trudeau, not 5th :P) say that I can agree with.

Although I got a kick out of him talking about us doing things without considering the consequences. :lol:

When you say "ethics are unable to keep up". Are you meaning that we don't have time to theoretically apply them to the end point prior to deployment of the given innovation?
It's more than about lack of time to apply ethics, it's that we haven't even realised the impact of said technology to understand what our ethics should be, and to enact laws to put guardrails in place.
I've always considered ethics and morals to be rather bedrock in terms of importance.....I would posit that we do know what they should be, however we don't have time to game out every conceivable scenario with new technologies before some are replaced.

The morality and the the ethical implications of what Facebook was doing (your example) was not something that we didn't have time to figure out. One of FB's co-founders admitted that they knew what they were doing even though they denied it, even to themselves, at first. Tell me how ethics needed to be figured out when it comes to intentionally designing something to be addictive for the sake of profit (or worse, control)? Seems straightforward, you don't do that unless you are severely lacking in the ethics department.

Re: Just Not ready

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2024 10:09 pm
by 5thhorseman
Mëds wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2024 5:13 pm
5thhorseman wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2024 10:00 am
Mëds wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 10:42 pm
5thhorseman wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 5:36 pm Wordy, but not a word salad. He's saying that technological innovation is moving so fast nowadays that our ethics are unable to keep up. Not a new thought.
Probably one of the first things I've heard that asshat (Trudeau, not 5th :P) say that I can agree with.

Although I got a kick out of him talking about us doing things without considering the consequences. :lol:

When you say "ethics are unable to keep up". Are you meaning that we don't have time to theoretically apply them to the end point prior to deployment of the given innovation?
It's more than about lack of time to apply ethics, it's that we haven't even realised the impact of said technology to understand what our ethics should be, and to enact laws to put guardrails in place.
I've always considered ethics and morals to be rather bedrock in terms of importance.....I would posit that we do know what they should be, however we don't have time to game out every conceivable scenario with new technologies before some are replaced.

The morality and the the ethical implications of what Facebook was doing (your example) was not something that we didn't have time to figure out. One of FB's co-founders admitted that they knew what they were doing even though they denied it, even to themselves, at first. Tell me how ethics needed to be figured out when it comes to intentionally designing something to be addictive for the sake of profit (or worse, control)? Seems straightforward, you don't do that unless you are severely lacking in the ethics department.
Ethics is the application of morals to situations, so it actually is the "gaming out of every conceivable scenario.". Maybe the FB example was an obvious decision, but that doesn't mean other ethical decisions are just as easy. Where did FB actually cross the line into addictiveness. Infinite scrolling? Personalized content? Likes? Don't candy and chocolate bar manufacturers also try to make their products as addictive as possible for the sake of profit? What's the difference?

Re: Just Not ready

Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2024 7:16 am
by Topper
Brilliant, even if it is illegal in California

https://x.com/covid_parent/status/1838755111406833693

Re: Just Not ready

Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2024 10:40 am
by Topper
For you old farts.

Parliamentary Budget Officer has been asked about the impact of the increased Capital Gains Tax on the Governments CPP Funds. His comment, because the government pension plan and most all pension plans, invests Canadian corporations subject to the new capital gains tax regime.

https://www.instagram.com/martymorantz/ ... UCuNnSGP2/

Re: Just Not ready

Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2024 3:01 pm
by Strangelove
Topper wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2024 7:16 am Brilliant, even if it is illegal in California

https://x.com/covid_parent/status/1838755111406833693
:mrgreen:

Re: Just Not ready

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 5:21 pm
by Topper
Image

Re: Just Not ready

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 5:36 pm
by Cousin Strawberry
Topper wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 5:21 pm Image
:lol:

It's a red emperor penguin

Re: Just Not ready

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 5:47 pm
by Strangelove
I too was thinking penguin, Cuz. :D

Re: Just Not ready

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2024 8:04 pm
by Topper
Irony.

Nancy Deziel, the wife of Quebec separatist Bloc Québécois party leader, Yves-François Blanchet is a chemist, researcher and Director with the Canadian Federal Government's National Research Council. Yes, the Federal Government her husband is determined to pull Quebec out of.

The Bloc is currently edging towards pulling the minority Liberal Government down before the end of the month.

It was just announced his with is receiving a promotion and will chair the board of Canada Foundation for Innovation.

There is no suggestion she isn't qualified, she has a vast resume of research, administration and leadership in science, ... but the irony of her having a plumb federal taxpayer funded position and being promoted while her husband is threatening to topple the government is can not be lost.

Re: Just Not ready

Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2024 4:03 pm
by Topper
Free Speech, I have no problem with demonstrators burning the Canadian Flag at Vancouver protests the other day.

I do have an issue with the support of outlawed terrorist organizations and speech advocating genocide.

Re: Just Not ready

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2024 12:08 pm
by Meds
https://nationalpost.com/opinion/first- ... me-to-pass

While it didn’t take a Nostradamus to make a prediction like that, there’s some serious irony here considering that Fidel Jr. chanted “Nobody believes you Mr. Harper” on repeat over top of Harper while the latter was trying to answer a question with numbers and facts during the last political debate prior to the 2015 election.

Hopefully the plethora of (at least then) ignorant Canadians eat their serving of crow with humility and direct their ire in the appropriate direction come next election.

Re: Just Not ready

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2024 6:43 pm
by Topper
Now that contraception and insulin are free, it is so much easier to fuck your sweetie.