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BigTuna wrote: So signing Roberts as a UFA did not help?

I don't know, did it?

It's your fucking team, not mine.

BigTuna wrote: So signing Roberts as a UFA did not help?

Sure it helped. Just look at all the cups he brought to the leaves. Oh, wait........

BigTuna wrote:

Mëds wrote:
How the hell does a GM, the scouts, and the coach, screw up that badly?

How was there not at least one person in the Maple Laughs organization that picked up on the fact that Finger was not Sauer?

What a complete shit show of an organization!

That story was not true. Obnly ESPN agreed to run with it. TSN/Sportsnet KNIC ignored it because of how silly it was.

Those are your examples of why you believe that the story isn't true?

TSN = a network that has the leaves so far up their arse that when they exhale the world smells Toronto's cock. (Might explain why they were so blindsided by the Rogers deal with the NHL.....they're as on point as the team they pander to).

Sportsnet = the new NHL media whore in Canada. Toronto is the big ticket in terms of sales and revenues. You think they want to be the ones to run with a story that shows just how poorly that franchise is being managed. Doesn't Rogers own a chunk of MLSE?

ESPN = Biggest sports network. Worth $40 Billion. They don't really have a vested interest in the Toronto Maple leaves.

Yeah.....I'll go with ESPN.

okcanuck wrote:Centre of the universe? Fuck that!!! Toronto is the asshole of North America

Well scientifically speaking, it could be both:

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Mëds wrote:

BigTuna wrote:

Mëds wrote:
How the hell does a GM, the scouts, and the coach, screw up that badly?

How was there not at least one person in the Maple Laughs organization that picked up on the fact that Finger was not Sauer?

What a complete shit show of an organization!

That story was not true. Obnly ESPN agreed to run with it. TSN/Sportsnet KNIC ignored it because of how silly it was.

Those are your examples of why you believe that the story isn't true?

TSN = a network that has the leaves so far up their arse that when they exhale the world smells Toronto's cock. (Might explain why they were so blindsided by the Rogers deal with the NHL.....they're as on point as the team they pander to).

Sportsnet = the new NHL media whore in Canada. Toronto is the big ticket in terms of sales and revenues. You think they want to be the ones to run with a story that shows just how poorly that franchise is being managed. Doesn't Rogers own a chunk of MLSE?

ESPN = Biggest sports network. Worth $40 Billion. They don't really have a vested interest in the Toronto Maple leaves.

Yeah.....I'll go with ESPN.

So your argument is TSN and Sportsnet would not run a negative story like that yet they just spent the last week crapping on the team over not "Saluting" the fans 1 night?

Do you guys really follow what they say about the leaves. They crap on them constantly.

How about another example: Kessel doesnèt speak to a TSN reporter and the entire network runs with it like it means something.

Who are the leaves?

Oh, sorry, you mean leaves. I wish you knew who and what you were talking about. It would make it easier to follow your dribble.

BigTuna wrote: How about another example: Kessel doesnèt speak to a TSN reporter and the entire network runs with it like it means something.

Your keyboard is on bastardized French.

ESPN is also a parent company to TSN, owning 20% of the network. The other 80% is owned by Bell Media. Bell Media is a subsidiary of BCE.

The leaves are majority-owned by BCE and Rogers (Sportsnet). Is it plausible that these organizations (TSN and Sportsnet) wouldn't want to make the leaves look THAT inept? I'd say they have more than a little motivation to not make the Leaves look bush-league.

Obviously ESPN doesn't give a shit, they're controlled by a small company by the name of Disney, which has about $84B in assets. Disney could buy the entire NHL about 6 times.

Island Nucklehead wrote:ESPN is also a parent company to TSN, owning 20% of the network. The other 80% is owned by Bell Media. Bell Media is a subsidiary of BCE.

The leaves are majority-owned by BCE and Rogers (Sportsnet). Is it plausible that these organizations (TSN and Sportsnet) wouldn't want to make the leaves look THAT inept? I'd say they have more than a little motivation to not make the Leaves look bush-league.

Obviously ESPN doesn't give a shit, they're controlled by a small company by the name of Disney, which has about $84B in assets. Disney could buy the entire NHL about 6 times.

Yet they are doing it daily. How do you explain that.

BigTuna wrote: Yet they are doing it daily. How do you explain that.

Critiquing the play of the team and the players is a tad different than making management and ownership look as though they're the ones that should be wearing helmets.

Aaronp18 wrote:

BigTuna wrote: Yet they are doing it daily. How do you explain that.

Critiquing the play of the team and the players is a tad different than making management and ownership look as though they're the ones that should be wearing helmets.

But they are not doing that. They spent last week making a huge drama over salutegate and Kessel not talking to TSN reporter, Jonas Siegel.

BigTuna wrote: But they are not doing that. They spent last week making a huge drama over salutegate and Kessel not talking to TSN reporter, Jonas Siegel.

So Kessel doesn't play for the team anymore?

They're critiquing the players.

Maybe they should be blasting management for giving these guys extensions and signing them in the first place. But Dreger won't do that to cuz.

Aaronp18 wrote:

BigTuna wrote: But they are not doing that. They spent last week making a huge drama over salutegate and Kessel not talking to TSN reporter, Jonas Siegel.

So Kessel doesn't play for the team anymore?

They're critiquing the players.

Maybe they should be blasting management for giving these guys extensions and signing them in the first place. But Dreger won't do that to cuz.

So you feel any NHL team would get that negative attention over not saluting the fans from TSN. LOL

BigTuna wrote:[
So you feel any NHL team would get that negative attention over not saluting the fans from TSN. LOL

I think saluting your fans for every regular season win is bush league anyways.

They don't mean it, it's become so routine it's just something to do.

Win us a Cup, don't wave your sticks in the air like you just don't care.

Aaronp18 wrote:

BigTuna wrote: Yet they are doing it daily. How do you explain that.

Critiquing the play of the team and the players is a tad different than making management and ownership look as though they're the ones that should be wearing helmets.

Bingo. It's all about performance, and that's not unique to Toronto. When ANY Canadian team is as bad as the leaves have been, the media hammers them to sell papers.

Calling out a GM for not knowing what players he's signing to multi-year, multi-million dollar deals is a much more serious attack on the "brand". When ownership corporations have a mutual interest, say in not making MLSE board members look like absolute buffoons, the stories don't get written.

I mean, this theory at the very least gives good reason as to why ESPN was the major media outlet reporting it. And I would argue, is a much, much more important media outlet than either TSN or Rogers. The fact they DIDN'T pick it up demands explanation (given the little coverage hockey garners on ESPN), and the ownership situation certainly seems a plausible explanation to me.

BigTuna wrote: So you feel any NHL team would get that negative attention over not saluting the fans from TSN. LOL

100% they would. If you sucked ass, had jerseys thrown on the ice, and then made a concious decision to NOT salute the fans and offer up any rational reason to explain your decision (other than it's a fuck you to the boo-birds), there would obviously be questions asked. Look at the Oilers Jersey-toss when it first came out last year, was big news. The Torts dressing room attack vs. Calgary, news for weeks. The Canadian media LOVES kicking Canadian teams when they're down. Blood sells. This is not unique to the Leaves.