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Re: Canucks Young Guns
Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 8:17 am
by Chef Boi RD
Yeah shit, if Lockwood goes back I don’t think we stand a chance if he is free to sign wherever. Benning is in a tough spot
Re: Canucks Young Guns
Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 9:10 am
by Diehard1
Hockey Widow wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2019 12:28 am
I think it's posturing. Benning wants him in Utica on an ATO. Lockwood wants his NHL contract. I think if that's the real stumbling block Benning gives in. Hell, look at some of the colleges guys he signed and were bust but he gave them a chance.
I can imagine the conversation went something like this:
JB: Ya so like we think Will will help Utica in their playoff run and like so we think like its good fit for now. So like how about ATO and Will can help Utica go all the way.
Lockwood Advisor: Oh, did we forget to tell you that Will is contemplating return to Michigan next season?
JB: Well like so we think he still needs to develop and like so Utica is the best place for him and then he can come to camp like to earn a job.
LA:Oh, did we forget to tell you that Will is contemplating return to Michigan next season?
JB: Like so what is it with young players today that don't want to earn a roster spot and they think everything should be handed to them.
LA: Oh, did we forget to tell you that Will is contemplating return to Michigan next season?
JB: Well like let's sit on it for 24-48 hours and then we can revisit it.
LA: Thats great. Oh, and did we forget to tell you that Will is contemplating return to Michigan next season?
The other issue I heard was that Benning has to be mindful of his available contracts and once Hughes is signed he only has 3 left, I think. He has a list of college UFA's that'd he'd like to go after. So perhaps the thinking is either, they are not sold that Lockwood is ready for the NHL,If ever, or they think he is but they want to save a contract spot just in case.
True regarding the contract limit, though I believe that contracts slide to next year unless the player actually plays a game for the Canucks this season. I may be wrong about that but that’s what I thought. I’m not sure there are too many FAs out there that are good enough to insert into the lineup, even with the team as bad as it is.
Re: Canucks Young Guns
Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:41 am
by Carlyee
RoyalDude wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2019 8:17 am
Yeah shit, if Lockwood goes back I don’t think we stand a chance if he is free to sign wherever. Benning is in a tough spot
In addition the whole "pay your dues" approach used with Dahlen goes out the window. So College players can hold the club hostage but Euros cannot? Two sets of rules. It applies to all teams but GMJB sort of set a precident so to speak with Dahlen.
Re: Canucks Young Guns
Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 12:18 pm
by SKYO
Don't know why William Lockwood trynna be like that, I mean Tyler Motte did better than him in college, Lockwood is a lock to be either a 4th or 3rd liner in the NHL, might as well learn the pro 2way game in Utica right now.
Lockwood:
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdis ... pid=177811
Motte:
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdis ... pid=145528
Re: Canucks Young Guns
Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 12:47 pm
by Mickey107
Ya, and young Mr Lockwood knows that an injury can happen. He knows very well. He is very lucky. Shoulda been an omen?
Re: Canucks Young Guns
Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 12:52 pm
by Hockey Widow
Carlyee wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:41 am
RoyalDude wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2019 8:17 am
Yeah shit, if Lockwood goes back I don’t think we stand a chance if he is free to sign wherever. Benning is in a tough spot
In addition the whole "pay your dues" approach used with Dahlen goes out the window. So College players can hold the club hostage but Euros cannot? Two sets of rules. It applies to all teams but GMJB sort of set a precident so to speak with Dahlen.
And we all know why NCAA players have this leverage. But if they are not good enough they will be buried in the AHL. So ya two sets of rules for the promising elite out of college but it’s temporary, once the season is done their leverage is gone.
Re: Canucks Young Guns
Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 12:59 pm
by Mickey107
I hate waiting. Patients aint never been one of my fortes, Damn it..
Re: Canucks Young Guns
Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 1:07 pm
by Hockey Widow
Do we have roster room for both Hughes and Lockwood? Maybe that’s a problem. I guess we could return Brisbois.
Re: Hughes, he’s said yes. We should get an announcement today. Flight will be booked for Monday.
Re: Canucks Young Guns
Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 1:14 pm
by Chef Boi RD
Hockey Widow wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2019 1:07 pm
Do we have roster room for both Hughes and Lockwood?
At this point, you make room. The season is done. If Green and Benning are not willing to play out the rest of the season with the future in mind then I just might become a GillisBro. These two need to stop being stupid. A blatant tank with your future dominating the lineup may be in order, we ain’t winning with the vets, so why the fuck not? If I here Green go on about the little things that Eriksson does, etc I’ll lose it.
Re: Canucks Young Guns
Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 1:16 pm
by Mickey107
Well, not only has he wore the number before but it only seems appropriate if he dons the number
7
It's a bit of an old school defense man's number anyways. Just seems right...
Re: Canucks Young Guns
Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 1:48 pm
by Ronning's Ghost
RoyalDude wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2019 1:14 pm
At this point, you make room. The season is done. If Green and Benning are not willing to play out the rest of the season with the future in mind then I just might become a GillisBro. These two need to stop being stupid. A blatant tank with your future dominating the lineup may be in order, we ain’t winning with the vets, so why the fuck not? If I here Green go on about the little things that Eriksson does, etc I’ll lose it.
You needn't abandon your hatred of all thing Gillis in order to be skeptical, or even overtly critical, of Benning and his plans.
Re: Canucks Young Guns
Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 1:50 pm
by SKYO
Once the Canucks are mathematically eliminated from the playoffs, only then will Green give Gaudette, Demko etc more minutes to prepare em for next season.
TG itchin' to get Q on board.
Green on Q Hughes: ‘he’s an exciting part of our future and I hope I get to see him sooner rather than later. I plan on getting him in if he’s here. That’s for sure. I want to play him as much as I can’
Re: Canucks Young Guns
Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 2:01 pm
by Cornuck
SKYO wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2019 1:50 pm
TG itchin' to get Q on board.
Can you blame him?
Re: Canucks Young Guns
Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 2:06 pm
by Hockey Widow
[*]Ya but at this point you still need to manage the expansion draft. It would be stupid not too, nothing to gain by playing him more than 10 games.
We don’t know what our D will look like in two years so be practical
Re: Canucks Young Guns
Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 2:09 pm
by Chef Boi RD
Ronning's Ghost wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2019 1:48 pm
RoyalDude wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2019 1:14 pm
At this point, you make room. The season is done. If Green and Benning are not willing to play out the rest of the season with the future in mind then I just might become a GillisBro. These two need to stop being stupid. A blatant tank with your future dominating the lineup may be in order, we ain’t winning with the vets, so why the fuck not? If I here Green go on about the little things that Eriksson does, etc I’ll lose it.
You needn't abandon your hatred of all thing Gillis in order to be skeptical, or even overtly critical, of Benning and his plans.
Then why are all you HF Canuck bro’s so quick to defend Gillis if it’s possible to be a BenningHater without being a GillisBro?
Benning inherited a team universally agreed upon, across the board, to possess the worst future outlook AND prospect pool in the NHL at the time of Jim’s hiring? Do you agree RG?