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Mëds wrote: ↑Sat Apr 26, 2025 4:26 pm

donlever wrote: ↑Sat Apr 26, 2025 3:26 pm ...or a Shark.

Which would suck worse.

Celebrini, Smith and McKenna in the Pacific for the next decade.

If they all hit projections could San Jose afford to keep them all?

None of those guys will be as good as McJesus or the German. The Coil have kept these two for a decade along with Darnell. Certainly you could retain all 3.

The league needs to radically change their lottery. Chicago and San Jose shouldn't be able to pick top 5 for 4 and 5 years, respectively. The fact that teams can just accumulate all these kids by serving up a shitty product is asinine.

Blob Mckenzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 26, 2025 6:00 pm

Mëds wrote: ↑Sat Apr 26, 2025 4:26 pm

donlever wrote: ↑Sat Apr 26, 2025 3:26 pm ...or a Shark.

Which would suck worse.

Celebrini, Smith and McKenna in the Pacific for the next decade.

If they all hit projections could San Jose afford to keep them all?

None of those guys will be as good as McJesus or the German. The Coil have kept these two for a decade along with Darnell. Certainly you could retain all 3.

McDavid is other worldly, he's a damned cheat code. Even with that they have fallen short.

If they hit their projections could San Jose afford to keep them all and still ice a team with quality goaltending and enough depth to win the Cup?

Blob Mckenzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 26, 2025 6:00 pm

Mëds wrote: ↑Sat Apr 26, 2025 4:26 pm

donlever wrote: ↑Sat Apr 26, 2025 3:26 pm ...or a Shark.

Which would suck worse.

Celebrini, Smith and McKenna in the Pacific for the next decade.

If they all hit projections could San Jose afford to keep them all?

None of those guys will be as good as McJesus or the German. The Coil have kept these two for a decade along with Darnell. Certainly you could retain all 3.

The league needs to radically change their lottery. Chicago and San Jose shouldn't be able to pick top 5 for 4 and 5 years, respectively. The fact that teams can just accumulate all these kids by serving up a shitty product is asinine.

Didn’t they just bring in a rule to stop this? I might be wrong.

According to AI:

​Under the current NHL Draft Lottery rules, a team is limited to winning the lottery no more than twice within any five-year span. This regulation, implemented starting with the 2022 draft, applies to instances where a team advances its draft position due to a lottery win.

It's important to note that this restriction pertains specifically to teams moving up in the draft order as a result of winning the lottery. If a team secures a top draft pick based solely on its regular-season standing—such as finishing last in the league—it does not count against this two-win limit. Therefore, a team that finishes with the worst record can still obtain the first overall pick, even if it has already won the lottery twice within the five-year window .​
Wikipedia

This rule is designed to prevent teams from repeatedly benefiting from lottery wins, thereby promoting a more balanced distribution of top draft picks among teams over time.​

That’s a ridiculous rule and needs to be changed. Teams should be penalized gor finishing top two worst in the league for multiple consecutive years. Take a blow torch to it, back to the table. Where’s the political pundit - Topper these days and his arch nemesis of the political realm?

Speaking of McKenna, just 5 assists tonight so far. 2027 draft stud Landon DuPont is having a monster of a post season, lookout Makar. If you wanna know who the talk of the town is for 2028, check Saskatchewan’s Maddox Schultz. Regina won the lottery role and will be selecting him. Schukmau be better than McKenna. They call him a Crosby clone, putting up insane numbers right now in a tournament.

According to Friedman (add in what Friedman caveat you want), Tocchet is concerned about the lack of dedicated practice facility.

Seriously?? A practice facility is going to be the deal-breaker??

On the one hand, I never figured the practice rink would be such a big deal. On the other, if it was a big deal why is management behind the eight-ball on it??

Lancer wrote: ↑Mon Apr 28, 2025 9:26 am According to Friedman (add in what Friedman caveat you want), Tocchet is concerned about the lack of dedicated practice facility.

Seriously?? A practice facility is going to be the deal-breaker??

On the one hand, I never figured the practice rink would be such a big deal. On the other, if it was a big deal why is management behind the eight-ball on it??

In the season ending presser, Rutherford said the problem has been that they have looked at various rinks over the years to see if they could enter into a deal to retrofit the rink and use that but for a variety of reasons/issues none have worked out. Now they are looking at a couple of parcels of land where they can build one but no purchase decision has been made. He said the facility will get done, maybe not in his lifetime, but it will get done.

Perhaps it is an expense that ownership simply does not deem warranted.

Chef Boi RD wrote: ↑Sat Apr 26, 2025 8:08 pm That’s a ridiculous rule and needs to be changed. Teams should be penalized gor finishing top two worst in the league for multiple consecutive years. Take a blow torch to it, back to the table. Where’s the political pundit - Topper these days and his arch nemesis of the political realm?

I think it would be enough to no reward teams for tanking, while still maintaining a bit of the parity idea.

I liked the way they did the Crosby draft after the 2004-2005 lockout. Every team had one proverbial ball in the bingo contraption. If you missed the playoffs in 2003-04, you got another ball. In 02-03, another. Simple, straightforward.

I'd do something similar now, but wouldn't give a ball to a playoff team. SC winner picks 32, SC loser pick 31, conference finalists pick 30 & 29 (randomly determined), division finalist losers 25-28 (randomly determined), and division semifinalists 17-24 (randomly determined). Each non-playoff team gets 2 balls. Each nonplayoff team gets another ball for each playoff they missed over the past two seasons. No team that missed the playoffs would have a more than twice as good a chance as another to get the first overall pick.

Basing draft position on points alone attempts a more precise measure of relative team quality, but the teams that end the season in April are not the teams that accumulated points from October to April. Players are traded, some teams enter "pre-pre-season" mode while others bought at the deadline only to come up just short, etc. And of course, the system as it stands encourages tanking, which can corrupt the playoff chase. And who cares about the difference between finishing 25th and 26th -- they are both losers. A good argument can be made in the stuff that matters, there's a greater gap between the team that finishes 16th and the one that finishes 17th than the one that finishes 17th and the one that finishes last....

Introducing a little randomness into who gets the first overall has decreased some of the tanking -- but they undermined that with their overly fine weighting of lottery chances (again, as if season points matters), by not allowing a team to drop more than 2 spots, etc. So it still makes more sense to tank....

Lancer wrote: ↑Mon Apr 28, 2025 9:26 am According to Friedman (add in what Friedman caveat you want), Tocchet is concerned about the lack of dedicated practice facility.

Seriously?? A practice facility is going to be the deal-breaker??

On the one hand, I never figured the practice rink would be such a big deal. On the other, if it was a big deal why is management behind the eight-ball on it??

That's just Friedman stirring up shit. I wish the media would just shut the fuck up once in a while. They are never happy unless creating a controversy to cover.

I think that everyone knows that the least amount of turnover is what this teams needs in the offseason.

Madcombinepilot wrote: ↑Mon Apr 28, 2025 1:11 pm That's just Friedman stirring up shit. I wish the media would just shut the fuck up once in a while. They are never happy unless creating a controversy to cover.

Until people stop repeating every mindless thought that enters their heads, they'll keep posting the same shit.

Cornuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 28, 2025 1:15 pm

Madcombinepilot wrote: ↑Mon Apr 28, 2025 1:11 pm That's just Friedman stirring up shit. I wish the media would just shut the fuck up once in a while. They are never happy unless creating a controversy to cover.

Until people stop repeating every mindless thought that enters their heads, they'll keep posting the same shit.

Sad, but true.

Cornuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 28, 2025 1:15 pm

Madcombinepilot wrote: ↑Mon Apr 28, 2025 1:11 pm That's just Friedman stirring up shit. I wish the media would just shut the fuck up once in a while. They are never happy unless creating a controversy to cover.

Until people stop repeating every mindless thought that enters their heads, they'll keep posting the same shit.

Yeah. It’s pretty well Psych 101…..bad news and negativity always sells.

Meg and I were talking last week that Nucks will soon be the only NHL team without a dedicated practice facility.

(when Calgary's facility is completed)

Perhaps the Friedperson gets some of his ideas from reading here.

Mëds wrote: ↑Mon Apr 28, 2025 2:08 pm

Cornuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 28, 2025 1:15 pm

Madcombinepilot wrote: ↑Mon Apr 28, 2025 1:11 pm That's just Friedman stirring up shit. I wish the media would just shut the fuck up once in a while. They are never happy unless creating a controversy to cover.

Until people stop repeating every mindless thought that enters their heads, they'll keep posting the same shit.

Yeah. It’s pretty well Psych 101…..bad news and negativity always sells.

If it bleeds, it leads…