Raging Fury wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 10:37 am
Next, hole on defense. However I think it's better if we wait for this need. Bargains can be had for those who wait during UFA signing frenzy. We need cap efficiency more than anything else long term.
Not a lot of money left. Maybe Benning really wants to give his prospects, Chatfield and Rafferty, time on the right side.
Right now the depth there is:
Myers
Rafferty
Chatfield
Benn
I would think that adding a right side D, if not Tanev, would be their priority, but maybe Benning sees this as the year the rookie D that have been cooking in Utica get their shot. Another option if the left side D does well, Rathbone and Juolevi, is to try Hughes on the right side? There are not many right side D on the market, so maybe that’s how they’ll go?
I think there's actually quite a few top-4 D that can replace Tanev's 18-19 minutes. Now that Calgary has spent its cap room, they have to let Hamonic and Brodie walk. There's a few guys who will go for more than what we paid Tanev last year, but quite a few who could be $4 mil or less.
Pietrangelo, Barrie, Vatanen, Tanev will all go for over $5 mil, but Schultz, Brodie, Ceci, Hamonic, maybe Shattenkirk will go for less.
If you're taking a super-cheap, high-reward type I'd offer Bogosian a one-year deal, I think he could be had for cheap, and he played well enough for 17:40/game in the Playoffs.
Pierre LeBrun@PierreVLeBrun
Let me clear on Holtby: it's a 4-team NO list. So four teams he won't go to without waiving. So pretty flexible list for Van
Another way 2020 is weird, back-loaded instead of front-loaded contracts. Holtby’s 2.9m first year and 5.7m second year must be all about escrow and fear of claw backs without any fans in the stands creating revenue. The revenue situation should be better the year after next... we hope.
nuckster wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 9:27 am
What a waste of fuckin time that was! Gawd (re:OEL).
It may have indirectly hurt us because it backed up the talks with our pending UFAs.
Oh well what's done is done, no use whining about it. Lots of work to be done going forward.
Agree, very curious to see how Vancouver does over the next few days.
from the folks who can't chew gum and walk at the same time
Really Topper!? Thats your contribution to the hockey world today? Was there anything that was said here that lent itself to warrant your incredibly gifted one-liner?
Yeah, my tolerance level is basically shot for the week. Can feel a cab-sav hang-over coming on for tomorrow... combined with a puff or two ofcourse.
Chill out nuckster.
Topper hasn’t contributed anything of value to this site since Mason Raymond was a Canuck.
Don’t even give his one liners the time of day, the only person who thinks they are even amusing is him.
Somewhere in NW BC trying (yet again) to trade a(nother) Swede…..
Just listening to Holtby,..RADIO.. he has already reached out to Demko. Wants to talk to him and get off on the right track..
Randip Janda@RandipJanda
Braden Holtby says working with Canucks goaltending coach Ian Clark was a major selling point for him
11:39 AM · Oct 9, 2020
Last year wasn't his best but Ian is pretty good at helping work out bugs that over time, can creep into a guy's game or even help with the reality
of aging and compensating for it.
Hope the 5x5 out of Pittsburgh were just rumours. With Tanev term is everything. They should really walk if the demand is more than two years. I wouldn’t mind even 5m if they have cap space, but Benning needs to keep the term low. Injuries and declining play are real issues. Anything like 5x5 is a mistake.
Cherry Picker wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 11:58 am
Hope the 5x5 out of Pittsburgh were just rumours. With Tanev term is everything. They should really walk if the demand is more than two years. I wouldn’t mind even 5m if they have cap space, but Benning needs to keep the term low. Injuries and declining play are real issues. Anything like 5x5 is a mistake.
I actually wouldn't go above what he made last year, perhaps give him term though
Cherry Picker wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 11:58 am
Hope the 5x5 out of Pittsburgh were just rumours. With Tanev term is everything. They should really walk if the demand is more than two years. I wouldn’t mind even 5m if they have cap space, but Benning needs to keep the term low. Injuries and declining play are real issues. Anything like 5x5 is a mistake.
I agree re. term, I'd be okay with an NMC on a short-term deal, since I think he's worth an expansion draft protection slot.
SKYO wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 10:53 am
Wow amazing Holtby took less term to play here! I'm sure he had longer term offers elsewhere, Holtby and Marky were the top netminders available today.
You’re sure of it are you? He’s been declining for three years but yes I’m sure he had more lucrative offers coming out the ying yang.
For the record this is a decent signing in Hargraves‘ eyes.
“I don’t care what you and some other poster were talking about”
Both the team and Holtby got what they wanted with this contract, in my opinion.
We want a short term goalie to play in tandem with Demigod that can satisfy the expansion draft requirements. Yes our goaltending took a hit with Marky departing, but Holtby is probably the best UFA goalie after Marky. I feel we will be ok in goal.
Holtby is looking for a reasonable contract to bet on himself and to ride out the flat cap environment.
So far this has been a decent UFA day, no stupid money/term commitments. That's all I can hope for.
Pierre LeBrun@PierreVLeBrun
Let me clear on Holtby: it's a 4-team NO list. So four teams he won't go to without waiving. So pretty flexible list for Van
Another way 2020 is weird, back-loaded instead of front-loaded contracts. Holtby’s 2.9m first year and 5.7m second year must be all about escrow and fear of claw backs without any fans in the stands creating revenue. The revenue situation should be better the year after next... we hope.
It’s expansion protection. They are hoping Seattle doesn’t want to pay real dollars.
The 'Chain of Command' is the chain I am going to beat you with until you understand I am in charge.
Pierre LeBrun@PierreVLeBrun
Let me clear on Holtby: it's a 4-team NO list. So four teams he won't go to without waiving. So pretty flexible list for Van
Another way 2020 is weird, back-loaded instead of front-loaded contracts. Holtby’s 2.9m first year and 5.7m second year must be all about escrow and fear of claw backs without any fans in the stands creating revenue. The revenue situation should be better the year after next... we hope.
It’s expansion protection. They are hoping Seattle doesn’t want to pay real dollars.
Don't we want Holtby to be selected? Seattle will get someone, might as well be him.
Pierre LeBrun@PierreVLeBrun
Let me clear on Holtby: it's a 4-team NO list. So four teams he won't go to without waiving. So pretty flexible list for Van
Another way 2020 is weird, back-loaded instead of front-loaded contracts. Holtby’s 2.9m first year and 5.7m second year must be all about escrow and fear of claw backs without any fans in the stands creating revenue. The revenue situation should be better the year after next... we hope.
It’s expansion protection. They are hoping Seattle doesn’t want to pay real dollars.
Don't we want Holtby to be selected? Seattle will get someone, might as well be him.
Yeah, but Holtby probably doesn’t want to move again so soon.
When I said ‘they’, I meant Holtby and agent. Not the Canucks. Canucks pretty much have zero fucks to give for this. Canucks lose Holtby, they simply find someone else for a new back up if Diepetro isn’t ready. If not, they decide at the end of year 2.
The 'Chain of Command' is the chain I am going to beat you with until you understand I am in charge.
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