We're All Doomed!™ (the Conquest, War, Famine, and Death Thread)

[Meds]

Donny, I believe those celebrations are largely outside of Venezuela. Inside the country people are more worried about what is going to happen next. They're staying inside and stocking up on groceries like it's covid.

Trump is obviously only after the oil and doesn't care at all about restoring democracy, given that he said Machado doesn't have the support of the people.

You have sources in Venezuela? Or are you just regurgitating the leftist media that you gobble up.

Mëds, why don't you actually contribute something instead of ranting leftist this and leftist that? Are there celebrations in Venezuela? Do you have any sources?

I haven’t claimed one way or the other. I asked you to prove your claim. You didn’t.

Carrying on.

[Megaterio Llamas]

New Grenada's new Viceroy

[5thhorseman]

Donny, I believe those celebrations are largely outside of Venezuela. Inside the country people are more worried about what is going to happen next. They're staying inside and stocking up on groceries like it's covid.

Trump is obviously only after the oil and doesn't care at all about restoring democracy, given that he said Machado doesn't have the support of the people.

You have sources in Venezuela? Or are you just regurgitating the leftist media that you gobble up.

Mëds, why don't you actually contribute something instead of ranting leftist this and leftist that? Are there celebrations in Venezuela? Do you have any sources?

I haven’t claimed one way or the other. I asked you to prove your claim. You didn’t.

You want me to prove the absence of something, lol? Can you prove Sasquatch doesn't exist?

I was responding to Donny's claims of celebrations., and he admitted he was just reposting.

[Meds]

But JPP, that was all bullshit and optics. Hell, we have been so successful in Cypres, the UN mission is still going strong 60 years later with no end in sight. Africa. The Golan heights. We have had troops on UN missions for ever, yet, have we really made a difference? And, our foreign aid has never made any long term differences. It just feeds the people that the 3rd world dictators can't or won't feed, and the root problems are maintained.

Maduro was an illegitimate dictator that ruined his country, and killed his own people. Given the option of the status quo vs the devil you don't know, I'd pick Trump's option.

I have always supported getting rid of Maduro, as he a brutal dictator. I guess the question is have for people is if you believe it was morally right to leave Maduro in power, or was it morally right to replace him. I believe it was morally right to replace him. But, as there is no legal way to do it, if you agree he should have been removed, but not Trump's way, the question is how?

I'm saying the way Trump went about it was wrong. Timing is all wrong. He has no plan for what comes next. Reactionary.

Do you know this, or are you just assuming?

Playing devil’s advocate with that.

I agree, if there is no follow up plan then the question does remain: what was really accomplished?

If this is such a big win. Why not do the same for Putin? Lukashenko, Jingping, Khamenei?

Location. Location. Location.

This was just across the Gulf of Trump err Mexico err America….maintaining projected influence after something like this is much easier.

With the investment that China had in Venezuela, this move strategically sends them a message that they are not yet on equal footing with the US. It also gives the US leverage in the Taiwan situation…..you want Venezuelan oil? Back off of Taiwan.

North Korea is a Chinese puppet and America isn’t going to poke the bear too hard by fucking around in China’s backyard.

On Iran, probably because the Middle East has cost the US dearly, and Iran is currently a hot mess that may actually depose their own tyrant (with some help) rather than actually get US boots dirty. But certainly things are happening there and the US is not simply an observer.

Who knows, maybe there’s a deal with China in place already. They can have Iran and own Russia so long as they keep their noses out of South America.

Its about resources. Greed. And idiocy.

Always is.

[donlever]

Woah woah woah 5th.

I didn't claim anything.

I posted something I saw on the web.

And I didn't admit to anything thereafter either...

...back to reading.

[Meds]

Donny, I believe those celebrations are largely outside of Venezuela. Inside the country people are more worried about what is going to happen next. They're staying inside and stocking up on groceries like it's covid.

Trump is obviously only after the oil and doesn't care at all about restoring democracy, given that he said Machado doesn't have the support of the people.

You have sources in Venezuela? Or are you just regurgitating the leftist media that you gobble up.

Mëds, why don't you actually contribute something instead of ranting leftist this and leftist that? Are there celebrations in Venezuela? Do you have any sources?

I haven’t claimed one way or the other. I asked you to prove your claim. You didn’t.

You want me to prove the absence of something, lol? Can you prove Sasquatch doesn't exist?

I was responding to Donny's claims of celebrations., and he admitted he was just reposting.

I didn’t see Donny admit anything. Show me please?

You believe that the people in Venezuela aren’t celebrating but are worried about what’s next…..ok…..what is that based on?

That’s what I’m asking for. You always hate it when someone asks for your source. Why is that?

[Cousin Strawberry]

His sources are confidential informants

[donlever]

Aliens.

...also....don't mind me....enjoying the conversation boyz.

Keep it rolling.....

[Megaterio Llamas]

@Mëds, if you think China owns Russia, I think you're misreading that relationship. China is dependent on Russia for resources, and just became more so with this recent US chess move. In the great power rivalry, the US and Russia are autarkies, China is vulnerable.

[Meds]

@Mëds, if you think China owns Russia, I think you're misreading that relationship. China is dependent on Russia for resources, and just became more so with this recent US chess move. In the great power rivalry, the US and Russia are autarkies, China is vulnerable.

Not now. I mean in the future.

China is dependent, but Russia is dependent upon China’s money to bankroll their capability to project might. If the west won’t purchase, and Europe wakes up and stops, then what deal will Russia signed with China?

[JelloPuddingPop]

@Mëds, if you think China owns Russia, I think you're misreading that relationship. China is dependent on Russia for resources, and just became more so with this recent US chess move. In the great power rivalry, the US and Russia are autarkies, China is vulnerable.

Megs. If you think the US is playing chess... you are misreading who is in the Whitehouse.

Checkers at best.

Or just sitting in the corner eating crayons and sniffing glue.

[Megaterio Llamas]

@Mëds, if you think China owns Russia, I think you're misreading that relationship. China is dependent on Russia for resources, and just became more so with this recent US chess move. In the great power rivalry, the US and Russia are autarkies, China is vulnerable.

Megs. If you think the US is playing chess... you are misreading who is in the Whitehouse.

Checkers at best.

Or just sitting in the corner eating crayons and sniffing glue.

lol JPP

[Megaterio Llamas]

@Mëds, if you think China owns Russia, I think you're misreading that relationship. China is dependent on Russia for resources, and just became more so with this recent US chess move. In the great power rivalry, the US and Russia are autarkies, China is vulnerable.

Not now. I mean in the future.

China is dependent, but Russia is dependent upon China’s money to bankroll their capability to project might. If the west won’t purchase, and Europe wakes up and stops, then what deal will Russia signed with China?

Not sure I understand, brother, but Russia isn't selling energy to the West anymore. Europe is cut out permanently. India and China are the new clients.

[5thhorseman]

Woah woah woah 5th.

I didn't claim anything.

I posted something I saw on the web.

And I didn't admit to anything thereafter either...

...back to reading.

Ok so maybe claim is the wrong word. You posted a photo and called it a "happy celebrating populous (sic)" then after my response called it "socialz shit" (your admission).

Now Mëds the scientist is looking for peer reviewed evidence of non-celebrations in Venezuela. Are you happy?

[Megaterio Llamas]

watch this lol https://x.com/TaraBull/status/2007938693819240934?s=20