Trade rumours & armchair pipe dreams 19-20 Sponsored by SKYO

[Cousin Strawberry]

Manson is still under contract with the ducks so the only way they let him go is for something that makes them better...in other words it aint gonna happen unless Benning offers up significant assets in return which he wont

The canucks are now shopping in the bargain bins if they're shopping at all

[Curmudgeon]

With respect to Hughes and Pettersson, I think an added benefit of the bubble environment is the players are paying even more attention to other series, teams, players, social media, and media and they see what's gone down and going down with the leaves and Oilers as to how much they have tied up in so few star players and that it can negatively impact how they construct their teams and their ability to truly compete for the Stanley Cup. It's a very real possibility here and already shaping up that way if Benning can't pull a rabbit out of his ass in the off season.

The other thing is Sekeres might have unintentionally done the Canucks a favour by stirring the pot with the Boeser trade rumours prior to the recent camp. It clearly upset Boeser, and very likely Pettersson, but it served notice as to what will ultimately happen if someone pulls a Marner or the team is too top heavy contract wise and should they need to move a high dollar asset to fill a positional need.

No guarantee these things come into play from the player's perspectives during the Hughes and Pettersson negotiations but I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if they did and the same goes for Markstrom and Tanev. I truly believe the young core (Hughes, Petersson, Boeser, Horvat) and mid to older guys like Tanev, Markstrom, Edler, and Miller are way closer than they the leaves and Oilers and them experiencing what they're about to will only bring them closer. Besides, who the hell wants to become the next leaves or Oilers?

[Cousin Strawberry]

I'm curious as to what happens with Toffoli. Will he go fishing for greenbacks or become part of this up and coming team and sign for a discount?

What will a discount look like for TT? Anything over 5 and i think the team declines

[Richardstroker69]

If Tanev leaves, the UFA replacement is much cheaper - defensive D, 18-20 minutes, kills penalties, no offence required.

If Stecher leaves, it's even easier to replace as a UFA: 15/16 min, no offence, decent PK and very little else.

Both of those theoretical replacements are 2nd and 3rd tier UFAs, getting us out of the July 1 silliness.

Also, the opportunity for a UFA RD to play with Hughes on a one-year, show-me deal, could entice a decent ufa to go for the big money contract next year.

With this group of guys I’d prefer we actively improve the team if possible, Manson will be an improvement over any of the free agents available and an improvement over what we’re icing on the right side.

[Richardstroker69]

Manson is still under contract with the ducks so the only way they let him go is for something that makes them better...in other words it aint gonna happen unless Benning offers up significant assets in return which he wont

The canucks are now shopping in the bargain bins if they're shopping at all

We got lots of trade bait in picks and prospects to improve the d core especially if anahiem is looking for futures. If we could trade for Manson and re sign I'd easily give up a first and hoglander. He’s a bonafide mean top 4 rhd that fights and is good.

[Cousin Strawberry]

Manson is still under contract with the ducks so the only way they let him go is for something that makes them better...in other words it aint gonna happen unless Benning offers up significant assets in return which he wont

The canucks are now shopping in the bargain bins if they're shopping at all

We got lots of trade bait in picks and prospects to improve the d core especially if anahiem is looking for futures. If we could trade for Manson and re sign I'd easily give up a first and hoglander. He’s a bonafide mean top 4 rhd that fights and is good.

Absolutely and would be an improvement right where they are the weakest....tough right side dmen who can actually play.

If Benning had a history of trading for dmen I'd say its a possibility but he hasnt made one trade like that yet...i cant see it

[Cousin Strawberry]

You just know the Blues will be salivating at chasing Stetcher into the corners...get ready to bitch.

Maybe watching a bigger physical team rubbish him repetitively like whats about to happen tonight will open jet blacks eyes

[Richardstroker69]

Manson is still under contract with the ducks so the only way they let him go is for something that makes them better...in other words it aint gonna happen unless Benning offers up significant assets in return which he wont

The canucks are now shopping in the bargain bins if they're shopping at all

We got lots of trade bait in picks and prospects to improve the d core especially if anahiem is looking for futures. If we could trade for Manson and re sign I'd easily give up a first and hoglander. He’s a bonafide mean top 4 rhd that fights and is good.

Absolutely and would be an improvement right where they are the weakest....tough right side dmen who can actually play.

If Benning had a history of trading for dmen I'd say its a possibility but he hasnt made one trade like that yet...i cant see it

“Ahem” gudbranson... of course gudbranson doesn’t have the fancy stats of Manson. But I get what you’re saying. I also think gudbranson would actually look really good beside Hughes.

[Mickey107]

If Tanev leaves, the UFA replacement is much cheaper - defensive D, 18-20 minutes, kills penalties, no offence required.

Um, think there's a little more to it then that. Tanev is more valuable then his stats indicate. By his hard work in the defensive zone, it can
help create offense even if it doesn't show up on his stats. Speaking of his stats, his plus / minus is good. That includes a plenitude of shitty
canuck years.
A solid UFA defense man, I doubt would be cheaper.

[ESQ]

If Tanev leaves, the UFA replacement is much cheaper - defensive D, 18-20 minutes, kills penalties, no offence required.

Um, think there's a little more to it then that. Tanev is more valuable then his stats indicate. By his hard work in the defensive zone, it can
help create offense even if it doesn't show up on his stats. Speaking of his stats, his plus / minus is good. That includes a plenitude of shitty
canuck years.
A solid UFA defense man, I doubt would be cheaper.

Sure, but we're not chasing a #1, offensive defenceman - those are the most expensive players to acquire and/or sign.

We're chasing a middle-pairing defensive defenceman. Those are cheaper to acquire than offensive or all-situation dmen.

That being said, I don't think there's any option out there who is better than Tanev - assuming he comes in at ~$5 mil.

[Mickey107]

I'm curious as to what happens with Toffoli. Will he go fishing for greenbacks or become part of this up and coming team and sign for a discount?

What will a discount look like for TT? Anything over 5 and i think the team declines

It will have to be very Canuck friendly now. I feel bad for all concerned. Jim brought him in for the big push for the rest of the regular season
and it looked on track then came the bug. The playoffs were the whole end game for his reason for being on our squad..
All I know, like everyone, he hasn't left the bubble.
In re; to his future? We need a defense man (bye Stecher), so I'd guess he goes wherever the grass is greenest. Doubt that's here.

[Blob Mckenzie]

If Tanev leaves, the UFA replacement is much cheaper - defensive D, 18-20 minutes, kills penalties, no offence required.

Any names you’d like to throw out there?

[Richardstroker69]

If Tanev leaves, the UFA replacement is much cheaper - defensive D, 18-20 minutes, kills penalties, no offence required.

Any names you’d like to throw out there?

I brought up gudas as an option but he’s not very good. If anahiem is going through a rebuild I really hope we kick the tires on Manson. He’d be everything we wanted guddy to be.

[Todd Bersnoozi]

I also think gudbranson would actually look really good beside Hughes.

I wouldn't mind getting Guddy back, but I think he has 1 more year on his contract. L.Schenn is an UFA though, we can prob get him for league minimum.

[Blob Mckenzie]

Who here thinks we should chase after josh Manson in the offseason if Tanev doesn’t re sign? I think he’d be a perfect partner for Quinn.

I can't see the Ducks trading him though...

I’d be down to send them our 2021 first and a prospect not named podkolzin.

Yeah no. This team isn’t a Josh Manson away from being a contender. Keep the pick and prospect. We’ve just dealt away a 1st, 2nd and 3rd. You can’t keep gutting the prospect pool at this stage. I like Manson as a player but that’s too high a price for this team to pay.