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Hockey Widow wrote: ↑Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:11 pm AS long as Benning is here Myers will be protected.

Why? stinger
He can resign Troy just to expose him. Nah, that doesn't work either. Can't afford to sign him. He's already said publicly he knows he may
not be here. Meaning no home town discount.
Edler will be over.
Tanev is the question at this point. We have to re-sign him. It's getting thin back there. Who'll be there whenever June 2021 is or will be.
Any way it happens on time? I don't see how.

Micky wrote: ↑Mon Jul 27, 2020 12:26 am

Hockey Widow wrote: ↑Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:11 pm AS long as Benning is here Myers will be protected.

Why? stinger
He can resign Troy just to expose him. Nah, that doesn't work either. Can't afford to sign him. He's already said publicly he knows he may
not be here. Meaning no home town discount.
Edler will be over.
Tanev is the question at this point. We have to re-sign him. It's getting thin back there. Who'll be there whenever June 2021 is or will be.
Any way it happens on time? I don't see how.

You're quite mad aren't you?

Whenever the X-draft occurs we have a very good idea of who will be there as far as our purposes are concerned.

Myers - here and protected.
Tanev (or vet RS replacement) - here and protected.
Juolevi - protected (possibly traded, and if so we'll bring in another dee who requires protection)

Edler - here at X-draft time, but pending UFA doesn't require protection.
Benn - who cares, gone this off-season or next and pending UFA doesn't require protection.
Stecher - gone this summer and on the off-chance he's still here = he'll be exposed.
Fantenburg - doesn't matter (who knows maybe we re-sign him 2 yrs and he's our designated exposed guy)
Hughes/Tree/Rathbone/Woo/Eliot/Teves - don't require protection
Brisbois/Chatfield - available if they want one (neither will likely meet designated exposed guy requirements)


But you're right, Armageddon could happen, so we shouldn't bother discussing anything...


EDIT: Rafferty requires protection

After some thinking, yeah lets re-sign Tanev 1yr, Barrie can get overpaid somewhere.

SKYO wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 1:55 am After some thinking, yeah lets re-sign Tanev 1yr, Barrie can get overpaid somewhere.

A big no to Barrie. He stinks Stecher like

Chef Boi RD wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 6:47 am

SKYO wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 1:55 am After some thinking, yeah lets re-sign Tanev 1yr, Barrie can get overpaid somewhere.

A big no to Barrie. He stinks Stecher like

Stech has been pretty damned good this post season. Better than Barrie, albeit in a more limited role. I'll go on the record saying I don't mind keeping him, if he fits under the cap. With the flat cap, give Stech another 3 years at $2.33 again.

Tciso wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 7:14 am

Chef Boi RD wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 6:47 am

SKYO wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 1:55 am After some thinking, yeah lets re-sign Tanev 1yr, Barrie can get overpaid somewhere.

A big no to Barrie. He stinks Stecher like

Stech has been pretty damned good this post season. Better than Barrie, albeit in a more limited role. I'll go on the record saying I don't mind keeping him, if he fits under the cap. With the flat cap, give Stech another 3 years at $2.33 again.

Unless he’s taking around 1.5 I can’t see him coming back. Too many bad contracts on the books.

Chef Boi RD wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 6:47 am

SKYO wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 1:55 am After some thinking, yeah lets re-sign Tanev 1yr, Barrie can get overpaid somewhere.

A big no to Barrie. He stinks Stecher like

I really wouldn’t judge Barrie with his time on that joke of a team. His years in colorado are waay more representative of his play. However, Barrie is gonna come cheap now with his shitty play in Toronto. He could be a good buy low candidate.

Unless they are letting Tanev walk, there’s no way they can sign Barrie

See how Tanev holds up in these playoffs. Looks great since the comeback..Comparably, Barrie has greater scoring point totals because of
the roles he's played throughout his career and the fact he's got a scorer's shot,however, his plus minus hasn't been very good overall.
Tanev's plus mnus is quite clean and that's saying something considering some of the icky rebuilding years he's been through.
Barrie's price will be way high. The fact he's 29 now is scary too. Long term, big bucks? IMO, not a good direction for Van.

Richardstroker69 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 7:45 am
I really wouldn’t judge Barrie with his time on that joke of a team. His years in colorado are waay more representative of his play. However, Barrie is gonna come cheap now with his shitty play in Toronto. He could be a good buy low candidate.

No thanks, he can't play defense. Sign Tanev and if they can't add a decent right side guy via trade look at Hamonic, Gudas, or DeMelo, maybe Braun, and see how Woo or Rafferty progress. Cap and/or lost revenue affects almost every team so not a good year to be UFA in my opinion. I'm still hopeful for Tryamkin and if they can ultimately sign him he can slide over there.

Doyle Hargraves wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 7:52 am Unless they are letting Tanev walk, there’s no way they can sign Barrie

There’ll be capspace available, virtanen is gone, gaudette won’t be getting much of a raise, stetcher is gone, Tanev won’t get as much as you think. Sutter will be moveable with how his playoffs have gone, as will Louie. Having said that I don’t know if barry is the answer on the right side although green really likes dmen that can skate the puck out and he’d be a good partner for joulevi on the bottom pairing. Barries shitty season and the flat cap is gonna make him take a huge pay cut, there won’t be teams lining up to give him 6m a year. I’m guessing he’ll do a short deal in the 4-5 range, same as Tanev.

Curmudgeon wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 10:47 am

Richardstroker69 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 7:45 am
I really wouldn’t judge Barrie with his time on that joke of a team. His years in colorado are waay more representative of his play. However, Barrie is gonna come cheap now with his shitty play in Toronto. He could be a good buy low candidate.

No thanks, he can't play defense. Sign Tanev and if they can't add a decent right side guy via trade look at Hamonic, Gudas, or DeMelo, maybe Braun, and see how Woo or Rafferty progress. Cap and/or lost revenue affects almost every team so not a good year to be UFA in my opinion. I'm still hopeful for Tryamkin and if they can ultimately sign him he can slide over there.

He played excellent defense his last year in Colorado, in fact he was one of the main reasons they got into the playoffs. His defensive game faltered in Toronto but that whole team had some weird shit going on.

Barrie has never been an excellent defender. He’s an elite pick mover and PP guy but he has always been a bit of a tire fire in his own end.

Richardstroker69 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 7:45 am

Chef Boi RD wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 6:47 am

SKYO wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 1:55 am After some thinking, yeah lets re-sign Tanev 1yr, Barrie can get overpaid somewhere.

A big no to Barrie. He stinks Stecher like

I really wouldn’t judge Barrie with his time on that joke of a team. His years in colorado are waay more representative of his play. However, Barrie is gonna come cheap now with his shitty play in Toronto. He could be a good buy low candidate.

Id rather sign Tanev. Why spend the same kind of money on a far worse defender in Barrie than resigning Tanev who wants to stay here? The Barrie over Tanev argument baffles my otherwise stable mind

With the emergence of Hughes, the urgency and getting a puck carrying Dman who can quarterback the PP, is not there. It would be great to have that RHD to play that role along with Hughes but he is not as required as he was a year ago. And they'd never see the ice on the same shift. You'd still need someone to play RD along side Hughes and we've seen that Tanev is the perfect compliment. Who would Barrie play alongside of? For the money he will want I cant see us fitting him in at this time.

As far as Sutter, Beagle and Ericksson go, I think we are seeing their value in the playoffs. Beagle was a monster in F/O. Sutter played a crash and bang, hard forechecking game and Louie helped stabilize the PK. AS well, they provided depth with boo boo's to Gaud & Tofolli.

I like the idea of Barrie but D is not his claim to fame and we can't afford his ticket right now.