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Cousin Strawberry wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2024 8:56 am

donlever wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2024 7:47 am
Rumour out there on da web has the Nucks and Elias bantering about a 7x7 deal.

I'm all for bringing Lindholm back. Dude was a beast

I would also be open to entertaining offers on Pettersson to free up capital to rearrange the deck chairs. I don't just flush him for cap space alone either (Mëds.... ). He definitely has trade value, even with that $$$$

I'm not flushing him for cap space. I would want value back.

Strangelove wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2024 4:05 pm

Aaronp18 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2024 9:42 pm We get one more year of Poolmans LTIR which essentially offsets OELs buyout hit next season.

The 25/26 season OELs buyout hit is much more and we don’t get Poolman’s relief anymore either. However, the hope is with Arizona gone the cap will increase much more substantially for that season enabling a bit of flexibility.

The notion that LTIR creates "extra" cap room is a common fallacy.

Sure... if you are right up to the cap... you can spend over the cap by the amount of the LTIR player's AAV.

But first you must count the player's AAV under the cap.

Example...

You are right at the (say) $88M cap limit counting Poolman's $2.5M.

You place Poolman on LTIR... now your cap is essentially $90.5M, counting Poolman's $2.5M.

If LTIR Poolman disappeared off the face of the Earth, your cap limit would be $88M, but you wouldn't have to count his $2.5M.

The assumption I was making is that the Canucks would go right up to the cap in order to use the LTIR.

So if we are tight to the $88m with OELs buyout it gives us the $2.5m from the LTIR during the season.

Aaronp18 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2024 12:26 pm The assumption I was making is that the Canucks would go right up to the cap in order to use the LTIR.

So if we are tight to the $88m with OELs buyout it gives us the $2.5m from the LTIR during the season.

Canucks will pretty much go right to the cap regardless though no?

Dumping Poolman's contract wouldn't give us more cap space, but it would make life easier for Allvin & Co.

Mëds wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2024 11:44 am What about moving Hronek for Necas (or someone better if such a player is out there).

Then move Pettersson for a Hronek replacement (possibly upgrade) and parts.

Re-sign Lindholm.

Echo Beach.

donlever wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2024 12:55 pm

Mëds wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2024 11:44 am What about moving Hronek for Necas (or someone better if such a player is out there).

Then move Pettersson for a Hronek replacement (possibly upgrade) and parts.

Re-sign Lindholm.

Echo Beach.

Far away inside…

Pssssstttt

(In time)

donlever wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2024 12:55 pm

Mëds wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2024 11:44 am What about moving Hronek for Necas (or someone better if such a player is out there).

Then move Pettersson for a Hronek replacement (possibly upgrade) and parts.

Re-sign Lindholm.

Echo Beach.

I was asking more because I don’t think Necas is a playmaker, and Lindholm was definitely better with a playmaker like Gaudreau on his wing. While I don’t think Petey has the footwork to create space and then distribute, he does have the playmaker’s IQ. If we are shipping the playmaking component out for a RHD, then I’d Necas the right return for Hronek?





Condescending prick.

Mëds wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2024 1:47 pm Condescending prick.

Lol...at times yes.

(...so many years around Stangelove has tainted me...I used to be a decent cat..)

donlever wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2024 1:59 pm

Mëds wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2024 1:47 pm Condescending prick.

Lol...at times yes.

(...so many years around Stangelove has tainted me...I used to be a decent cat..)

Doc tends to rub off…..

Mëds wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2024 2:08 pm Doc tends to rub off…..

.....with Cheezie dust I understand.

And here I thought I was way more humble than I should be...

There are a few users here, yourself, Topper, present company included (for instance)...that humble doesn't even reside in the same Postal Code.

rats.....on the other hand.

I humbly disagree.

Ya cunt.

Topper wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2024 5:02 pm I humbly disagree.

Ya cunt.

Yeah, if Hronek is gonna be signed long term, I have a tough time going over $7. His value to the club is obvious, but the body of success is short.

The problem with ditching Hronek for a winger like Necas is it creates a massive hole on the back end, and now you’ve limited the amount of $$ you can spend on reaquiring another top 4.

No, I think moving a top 4 RHD for a winger is poor asset mgmt and weakens the team.

I’m all for having the size and toughness and D acumen of Souc, Zed and Myers, but after Quinn the offensive wave from the blueline falls off a cliff, with little to no help coming up from the farm.

If Hronek does in fact want to stay in Van, I think you find a way to get him signed, even if it’s for just 2-3 years.