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Blob Mckenzie wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2019 9:59 am JT Miller 3 goals in 61 playoff games

micky107 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2019 10:39 am

Blob Mckenzie wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2019 9:59 am JT Miller 3 goals in 61 playoff games

How many assists?

This chat is embarrassing.
Throwing a defense man under the bus before he gets here because we gave up our first round pick in one of two years of which
we will not be a lottery team and even if we were, we'd lose as always and might I just fucking add that Miller's 47 points is
better than any Nuck Dee put up last year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hockey Widow wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2019 10:40 am

micky107 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2019 10:39 am

Blob Mckenzie wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2019 9:59 am JT Miller 3 goals in 61 playoff games

How many assists?

This chat is embarrassing.
Throwing a defense man under the bus before he gets here because we gave up our first round pick in one of two years of which
we will not be a lottery team and even if we were, we'd lose as always and might I just fucking add that Miller's 47 points is
better than any Nuck Dee put up last year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That’s great Micky. But J.T. is a winger. You’re thinking the wrong Miller

micky107 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2019 10:47 am well i was mad, I was in the middle of working out a way to get Collin Miller here, (which I have).

They deserved it anyways 47 points mostly on the third line is better than most of our forwards and he can play all 3 positions.

DonCherry4PM wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2019 9:52 am

Madcombinepilot wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2019 8:02 am With Callahan on permanent LTIR, Tampa isn't up against the cap like everyone seems to think.

Brisebois seemed to think they were "up against the cap" and made the move to clear cap space:

"Eventually we were going to have to unload some players and unfortunately today was one of those days. We had to create some cap space and Miller ended up being the player moved to make that cap space."


Tampa not having any cap issues is a nice narrative though to try to justify the overpayment. Just not true.

Diehard1 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2019 11:46 am

micky107 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2019 10:47 am well i was mad, I was in the middle of working out a way to get Collin Miller here, (which I have).

They deserved it anyways 47 points mostly on the third line is better than most of our forwards and he can play all 3 positions.

If Vegas signs Karlsson to the contract they've rumoured to have signed him to at $5.9 million per year, they are almost $5 million over the cap, still needing to sign 2 D and a back up goalie. Yes, this with Clarkson's contract on the books but it's still a huge issue.

Jimbo should be calling McCrimmon and offering to take Colin Miller, Clarkson's contract and a future 2nd rounder for a B level prospect. Gets Vegas where they need to be in terms of dollars, gets us a better dman than Myers at half the cost and we get a pick out of it. Clarkson's deal is up after this year and we wouldn't need the cap space this year so it all makes a ton of sense.

Unfortunately some other team will likely do it and get the assets almost for free. Come on Jimbo, this is a much better idea than signing Myers to a 7 year contract that will be regrettable almost as soon as it's inked.

Diehard1 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2019 11:46 am

micky107 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2019 10:47 am well i was mad, I was in the middle of working out a way to get Collin Miller here, (which I have).

They deserved it anyways 47 points mostly on the third line is better than most of our forwards and he can play all 3 positions.

If Vegas signs Karlsson to the contract they've rumoured to have signed him to at $5.9 million per year, they are almost $5 million over the cap, still needing to sign 2 D and a back up goalie. Yes, this with Clarkson's contract on the books but it's still a huge issue.

Jimbo should be calling McCrimmon and offering to take Colin Miller, Clarkson's contract and a future 2nd rounder for a B level prospect. Gets Vegas where they need to be in terms of dollars, gets us a better dman than Myers at half the cost and we get a pick out of it. Clarkson's deal is up after this year and we wouldn't need the cap space this year so it all makes a ton of sense.

Unfortunately some other team will likely do it and get the assets almost for free. Come on Jimbo, this is a much better idea than signing Myers to a 7 year contract that will be regrettable almost as soon as it's inked.

DonCherry4PM wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2019 9:52 am

Madcombinepilot wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2019 8:02 am With Callahan on permanent LTIR, Tampa isn't up against the cap like everyone seems to think.

Brisebois seemed to think they were "up against the cap" and made the move to clear cap space:

"Eventually we were going to have to unload some players and unfortunately today was one of those days. We had to create some cap space and Miller ended up being the player moved to make that cap space."


Tampa not having any cap issues is a nice narrative though to try to justify the overpayment. Just not true.

Madcombinepilot wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2019 11:56 am

DonCherry4PM wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2019 9:52 am

Madcombinepilot wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2019 8:02 am With Callahan on permanent LTIR, Tampa isn't up against the cap like everyone seems to think.

Brisebois seemed to think they were "up against the cap" and made the move to clear cap space:

"Eventually we were going to have to unload some players and unfortunately today was one of those days. We had to create some cap space and Miller ended up being the player moved to make that cap space."


Tampa not having any cap issues is a nice narrative though to try to justify the overpayment. Just not true.

Thanks. I figured roughly 16 million in cap room with only 4RFA's (one being Point- who will get paid) and 16 existing contracts was a "nice narrative" as well.. especially when a couple of those RFA's are not getting much...

https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/lightning

Now, if we want to discuss overpayment, let me know.

Madcombinepilot wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2019 8:02 am We needed something, and paid full price for it. Discounts are nice, but don't always happen with this GM.