I was accused of being MS and now I’m GM?
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Lol how much time do people think I have?
I was accused of being MS and now I’m GM?
I was accused of being MS and now I’m GM?
“I don’t care what you and some other poster were talking about”
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Or I’ll delete the posts that do...
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Finally...
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More greatness from MS:
“Yes, I strongly dislike Jim Benning because he's a totally incompetent GM who has done a disastrous job running my favourite hockey team.
I'm not just talking about amateur scouting. Go have a look at the list of pro-scouting defender acquisitions during Jim Benning's time here. It is absolutely catastrophic. Endlessly dazzled by guys who have raw tools (skate fast! shoot hard! make boards go bang!) but can't actually play hockey with any real competency”
“Yes, I strongly dislike Jim Benning because he's a totally incompetent GM who has done a disastrous job running my favourite hockey team.
I'm not just talking about amateur scouting. Go have a look at the list of pro-scouting defender acquisitions during Jim Benning's time here. It is absolutely catastrophic. Endlessly dazzled by guys who have raw tools (skate fast! shoot hard! make boards go bang!) but can't actually play hockey with any real competency”
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What makes MS tick, in his own words:
“One thing I've said a few times over the years is that Jimbo's lack of intelligence might actually work in his favour when it comes to scouting junior forwards.
Like, a huge percentage of the mistakes that come in amateur scouting come from rating down the most obviously talented guy because he 'isn't good defensively' or 'is lazy sometimes' or 'had a bad interview' and then rating up some schlub who oozes character and had great results in the fitness testing.
But if you're some moron who ignores all that and is just like 'DUH I LIKE THE GUY WHO SKATES FAST AND SHOOTS HARD AND SCORES GOALS AND STUFF' you might be avoiding a bunch of the traps that 'smarter' scouts fall into. It's basically the same principle as @Melvin and his potato which is almost anti-intellectually just taking the highest scoring guy and generating far better results than most NHL teams.
With forwards, anyway. Maybe.
With defenders, where just being big and skating well means nothing if you can't think and process the game, Jim Benning couldn't scout a competent blueliner if he kicked him in the face.”
“One thing I've said a few times over the years is that Jimbo's lack of intelligence might actually work in his favour when it comes to scouting junior forwards.
Like, a huge percentage of the mistakes that come in amateur scouting come from rating down the most obviously talented guy because he 'isn't good defensively' or 'is lazy sometimes' or 'had a bad interview' and then rating up some schlub who oozes character and had great results in the fitness testing.
But if you're some moron who ignores all that and is just like 'DUH I LIKE THE GUY WHO SKATES FAST AND SHOOTS HARD AND SCORES GOALS AND STUFF' you might be avoiding a bunch of the traps that 'smarter' scouts fall into. It's basically the same principle as @Melvin and his potato which is almost anti-intellectually just taking the highest scoring guy and generating far better results than most NHL teams.
With forwards, anyway. Maybe.
With defenders, where just being big and skating well means nothing if you can't think and process the game, Jim Benning couldn't scout a competent blueliner if he kicked him in the face.”
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I can do this all day. More spectacular stuff from the amazing MS:
“My tl:dr of this whole thing is that people are so deeply entrenched in defending Benning that they will invent elaborate conspiracy theories and unsubstantiated narratives to try and explain away the obvious rather than just looking at the evidence and assuming the most obvious conclusion is probably correct.”
“My tl:dr of this whole thing is that people are so deeply entrenched in defending Benning that they will invent elaborate conspiracy theories and unsubstantiated narratives to try and explain away the obvious rather than just looking at the evidence and assuming the most obvious conclusion is probably correct.”
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Guess who? Yup, you guessed right. More beautifulness from the greatest GM ever! MS:
“Yes, we all know that accidentally finishing at the bottom of the standings and being rewarded with high draft picks will eventually lead to any team collecting a fair bit of good young talent. Nobody has ever denied this. It doesn't mean that the team was managed well to get to that point, any more than the Edmonton Oilers were managed well when they collected McDavid/Draisaitl/Nurse/RHL/Klefbom or whatever. And it doesn't mean that the incompetent managers who got the team to that point have the intelligence or skills to actually turn that young talent into a consistent contender.
If you hired a crackhead off Main/Hastings to run this team since 2014 and all they did was drop the team to the bottom of the standings with a series of terrible moves and then take the consensus highest-rated player with their #1 pick ... we'd be absolutely loaded with young talent right now. That doesn't mean that the crackhead is a good GM who is going to bring a Cup to Vancouver. It means that the NHL drafting system is set up so that the worse you do at your job as a GM, the better the young players the league gives you to compensate.
We're already in a position where the team which was basically carried by their goalie last year might not be able to sign him because of all the other stupid contracts this team has given out. And we've essentially just fired the person most responsible for most of the draft picks you listed.
At least, I think we can all agree that *THANK GOD* Benning didn't get his way and trade our #1 picks in 2015 and 2016 + Bo Horvat for Lucic and Subban. And sign Dave Bolland. And draft Cody Glass. Can you imagine what this team would look like if that was the case and Benning's preferred plan came to fruition? Yikes!”
“Yes, we all know that accidentally finishing at the bottom of the standings and being rewarded with high draft picks will eventually lead to any team collecting a fair bit of good young talent. Nobody has ever denied this. It doesn't mean that the team was managed well to get to that point, any more than the Edmonton Oilers were managed well when they collected McDavid/Draisaitl/Nurse/RHL/Klefbom or whatever. And it doesn't mean that the incompetent managers who got the team to that point have the intelligence or skills to actually turn that young talent into a consistent contender.
If you hired a crackhead off Main/Hastings to run this team since 2014 and all they did was drop the team to the bottom of the standings with a series of terrible moves and then take the consensus highest-rated player with their #1 pick ... we'd be absolutely loaded with young talent right now. That doesn't mean that the crackhead is a good GM who is going to bring a Cup to Vancouver. It means that the NHL drafting system is set up so that the worse you do at your job as a GM, the better the young players the league gives you to compensate.
We're already in a position where the team which was basically carried by their goalie last year might not be able to sign him because of all the other stupid contracts this team has given out. And we've essentially just fired the person most responsible for most of the draft picks you listed.
At least, I think we can all agree that *THANK GOD* Benning didn't get his way and trade our #1 picks in 2015 and 2016 + Bo Horvat for Lucic and Subban. And sign Dave Bolland. And draft Cody Glass. Can you imagine what this team would look like if that was the case and Benning's preferred plan came to fruition? Yikes!”
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Let’s move on to Bleach Clean “here’s the tell”:
“We don’t know how many years he’s still going to be here. And so, the more we know about his actual impact, the better.
How is something that has just been confirmed old and tired? It’s just come out. We didn’t know that he had minimal impact on picking the best drafted players.
The one part of his job that was going ok, perceptually, just got stripped away from him by the media. And the person responsible just left.
Arguments behind the scenes may be normal, but the context here is that this manager is riding these picks to remain employed. Everything else he’s done is poor. On top of that he just fired/let go the person responsible. Business as usual in the NHL? No, it’s not.“
“We don’t know how many years he’s still going to be here. And so, the more we know about his actual impact, the better.
How is something that has just been confirmed old and tired? It’s just come out. We didn’t know that he had minimal impact on picking the best drafted players.
The one part of his job that was going ok, perceptually, just got stripped away from him by the media. And the person responsible just left.
Arguments behind the scenes may be normal, but the context here is that this manager is riding these picks to remain employed. Everything else he’s done is poor. On top of that he just fired/let go the person responsible. Business as usual in the NHL? No, it’s not.“
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Oh no's HF is going to get sued again.
"MS would be a top 5 GM in the NHL"
HFCanucks is Mudville and MS is Casey.
"MS would be a top 5 GM in the NHL"
HFCanucks is Mudville and MS is Casey.
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