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Re: 2024 Offseason - moving forward
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2024 10:41 am
by Aaronp18
Glad everyone is coming around on this Necas thing! Hronek is a very valuable asset and for a team with more cap space would be a great add and a top pairing RHD.
Necas is fast as fuck but does need guys to get him the puck, we just happen to have a guy with that skillset that's been looking for a consistent linemate for a while now.
Carolina knows exactly where we want to put Necas. So he is potentially valuable to us! They're playing that card looking for more assets. They want Hronek, they need to solidify the right side. We're playing that!
What it will likely come down to are what other options are out there? Are there more winger options to trade a RHD for or vice versa? Based on history our RHD is a much more valuable chip.
Re: 2024 Offseason - moving forward
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2024 11:50 am
by Aaronp18
Didn't see this mentioned but we have some coaching changes as well.
Mike Yeo out, Yogi Svejkovsky in.
Don't know much about Yogi, but we clearly came to a fork in the road and took it!
Re: 2024 Offseason - moving forward
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2024 11:56 am
by theman
Aaronp18 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2024 11:50 am
Didn't see this mentioned but we have some coaching changes as well.
Mike Yeo out, Yogi Svejkovsky in.
Don't know much about Yogi, but we clearly came to a fork in the road and took it!
Heard he is great with putting out fires.
Re: 2024 Offseason - moving forward
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2024 12:34 pm
by Topper
Yogi has been a skills coach, this move was a promotion.
Re: 2024 Offseason - moving forward
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2024 3:52 pm
by Strangelove
Aaronp18 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2024 11:50 am
Don't know much about Yogi, but we clearly came to a fork in the road and took it!
An a
berrant decision?
(trying to fill in for Carl)
Re: 2024 Offseason - moving forward
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2024 3:53 pm
by Hockey Widow
The problem with both Necas and Hronek is that they are not signed. Caroline isn't going to trade for him without knowing that they can sign him. And if they can sign him then there is no reason why the Canucks can't. But if Hronek wants to go to arbitration then FA to get his big payday that's what will happen.
Doc, I can't remember, but if he gets an arbitration award that we accept crewe prohibited from trading him then? If so, and if we can't sign him before the decision then I think we need to punt him.
Re: 2024 Offseason - moving forward
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2024 4:15 pm
by Strangelove
From the ither day... Zads still hanging around town!
Re: 2024 Offseason - moving forward
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2024 4:19 pm
by Strangelove
Hockey Widow wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2024 3:53 pm
Doc, I can't remember, but if he gets an arbitration award that we accept crewe prohibited from trading him then?
We could trade him after an arbitration award, but his value would take a big hit.
He'd be on a one year deal and a pending UFA after.
It's
after matching an offer sheet that you can't trade a player for a year.
Re: 2024 Offseason - moving forward
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2024 5:31 pm
by donlever
Strangelove wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2024 4:15 pm
From the ither day... Zads still hanging around town!
Nikita was quoted the other day as saying he can't go back to the Motherland until VP is dead and gone or he'd be in Siberia the day after.
He also said he and his entire family love our City and also intimated much more so than Cowtown.
There is a deal to be made here imesho.
Re: 2024 Offseason - moving forward
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2024 5:48 pm
by Cousin Strawberry
donlever wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2024 5:31 pm
Strangelove wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2024 4:15 pm
From the ither day... Zads still hanging around town!
Nikita was quoted the other day as saying he can't go back to the Motherland until VP is dead and gone or he'd be in Siberia the day after.
He also said he and his entire family love our City and also intimated much more so than Cowtown.
There is a deal to be made here imesho.
He clearly loves the stinky blue whale and the fans of the stinky blue whale love him back.
I believe JR will resign Zadorov for a team friendly deal that goes 5-6-7 years. He was a great 4-5 defenseman for us. Make it happen Cap'n
Re: 2024 Offseason - moving forward
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2024 6:08 pm
by BoS
Cole’s $3mil off the books and is given to Myers.
Myers $6 off the books and is divided up for Hronek and Zed
Re: 2024 Offseason - moving forward
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2024 6:21 pm
by donlever
...so the '24 - '25 cap increase is offset by OEL's buyout next season as a part of that scenario BoS?
Re: 2024 Offseason - moving forward
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2024 9:42 pm
by Aaronp18
donlever wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2024 6:21 pm
...so the '24 - '25 cap increase is offset by OEL's buyout next season as a part of that scenario BoS?
We get one more year of Poolmans LTIR which essentially offsets OELs buyout hit next season.
The 25/26 season OELs buyout hit is much more and we don’t get Poolman’s relief anymore either. However, the hope is with Arizona gone the cap will increase much more substantially for that season enabling a bit of flexibility.
Re: 2024 Offseason - moving forward
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2024 10:58 pm
by Meds
Aaronp18 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2024 10:41 am
Glad everyone is coming around on this Necas thing! Hronek is a very valuable asset and for a team with more cap space would be a great add and a top pairing RHD.
Necas is fast as fuck but does need guys to get him the puck, we just happen to have a guy with that skillset that's been looking for a consistent linemate for a while now.
Carolina knows exactly where we want to put Necas. So he is potentially valuable to us! They're playing that card looking for more assets. They want Hronek, they need to solidify the right side. We're playing that!
What it will likely come down to are what other options are out there? Are there more winger options to trade a RHD for or vice versa? Based on history our RHD is a much more valuable chip.
So are you saying you're in the camp to trade Hronek for Necas or to keep Hronek?
I don't think Petey is a guy that will be getting Necas the puck (I'm assuming that's who you mean).....Pettersson doesn't have the first step speed or strength on the puck to create space.
Re: 2024 Offseason - moving forward
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2024 1:54 am
by donlever
Mëds wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2024 10:58 pm
Aaronp18 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2024 10:41 am
Necas is fast as fuck but does need guys to get him the puck, we just happen to have a guy with that skillset that's been looking for a consistent linemate for a while now.
So are you saying you're in the camp to trade Hronek for Necas or to keep Hronek?
I don't think Petey is a guy that will be getting Necas the puck (I'm assuming that's who you mean).....Pettersson doesn't have the first step speed or strength on the puck to create space.
Shocking take.
The Scandanavian hater strikes yet again.
Aaronp18 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2024 9:42 pm
donlever wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2024 6:21 pm
...so the '24 - '25 cap increase is offset by OEL's buyout next season as a part of that scenario BoS?
We get one more year of Poolmans LTIR which essentially offsets OELs buyout hit next season.
The 25/26 season OELs buyout hit is much more and we don’t get Poolman’s relief anymore either. However, the hope is with Arizona gone the cap will increase much more substantially for that season enabling a bit of flexibility.
Aha...got it....thx AP.
Completely erased Poolperson from my brain.
Not even certain I've ever seen him play hockey.
Some projections I have seen reflect a 92 million + cap the following season so makes sense.