Just Not ready

[donlever]

Have you been to rural Manitoba?

[Cousin Strawberry]

Have you been to rural Manitoba?

Unfortunately yes. The Pas.

That's more a cultural issue than a pure dumbfuckery thing though

[Megaterio Llamas]

https://x.com/SatireSquadHQ/status/2057 ... 88385?s=20

[2Fingers]

Sad but true.

[Tciso]

It's like 25% of Albertans max. The only hardcore separatists are the ones on the highways with folding tables waving for signatures. It's pathetic really

The French at least had a legitimate angle with the distinct cultural crap. These tards are pretty well the dumbest people you'll ever meet in Canada

I disagree Cuz. These are not dumb people. They are mostly libertarians who are tired of Ottawa butt raping them, and not listening to real concerns. National Energy Program, distorted equalization, biased and paid media, Gun control, pipeline restrictions. Ever increasing regulations. Uncontrolled immigration. Crime and safety.

Its a repudiation of the leftist ideology coming from Eastern Canada. We say Canada is multicultural, but in fact, we are monoculture. You either agree with the alphabet movement, WEF, net zero, lock downs and government ownership/control, or you are vilified for wanting the culture, tax rates and freedoms we had in the 70s and 80s.

We are seeing the negative side of democracy. Not by the people wanting to leave (using the constitutional rules and the clarity act), but the Eastern majority that has abused a minority for generations. If it happens in a house, its called battered wife syndrome, and the man is left wondering why she left.

[Cousin Strawberry]

The centralist government in place now is making large motions to rectify much of the angst that has caused these issues yet now is when they decide to organize? This is US psyop manipulating the dumbest of the dumb into convenient weapons against Canadian sovereignty.

The gun control is nonsensical I agree.

[Topper]

The centralist government in place now is making large motions to rectify much of the angst that has caused these issues yet now is when they decide to organize? This is US psyop manipulating the dumbest of the dumb into convenient weapons against Canadian sovereignty.

The gun control is nonsensical I agree.

Carney is saying things but still hasn't done anything to make a pipeline viable. Fourteen of his caucus member signed a letter to him protesting his direction away from Trudeau climate agenda. Gregor, his BC boytoy didn't attend his pipeline confab with Eby.

Gladu continues to step in shit, again with the same story in different words. Said she spoke, while still a Conservative MP, with Evan Soloman Carney's Minister of Community Development about getting some things done in her riding. Even responded, "Sounds great, when are you coming over."

Cynical Laurentian Elite scheme, Smith submits pipeline proposal in July, early October, just before Alberta election and referendum, the Feds turn down the proposal. Smith is out, chaos on the right in Alberta, Neshi wins.

[Cousin Strawberry]

Punching a new pipe through the red tape and bullshit involved with resource development in BC takes far more time and energy than it should but this group have been consistent with their efforts to get it done in my opinion. Of course seeing construction would sure help relieve the angst but once approved the trans mountain project proved how quickly this country can get shit done.

Harper had the idea years ago to establish federally managed corridors for national interest infrastructure free of wading through natives and lettuce munchers. That was on the right path

[Meds]

Someone explain to me why it’s a good idea for Alberta to STAY in Canada. I’ve heard the reasons it would be good for them to go their own way, or even simply become the 51st.

Initial hardships of becoming a sovereign nation don’t count as reasons to stay, that’s just growing pains that need to be gone through along that pathway.

What are the drawbacks for the richest province in Canada leaving the roost? I know what the drawbacks for the other 9 Provinces (and trio of territories) would be.

Also…..this is well done.

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/canada ... its-wealth

[Cousin Strawberry]

We are Canadian. The local governance fomenting insurrection is not akin to identify as some sort of distinct hillbilly culture. It's a load of hogwash

The oilsands and hating ethnics does not make Albertans different

[Meds]

We are Canadian. The local governance fomenting insurrection is not akin to identify as some sort of distinct hillbilly culture. It's a load of hogwash

The oilsands and hating ethnics does not make Albertans different

What does it mean to be Canadian, besides your passport and a word?

Our societal values are fungible.

Our economic priorities and policies are self-defeating.

Our rights and freedoms are subject to the interpretation of the Supreme Court judge of the day who has been appointed by a government many of us did not vote for.

Is that what it means?

[Cousin Strawberry]

Its in the land, the water, wilderness.

Everywhere in the world is suffering from high inflation.

Everywhere in the world people are dealing with government overreach, strange new groups of ethnic or sexual minorities clamoring for acceptance...except the authoritarian states where tolerance is considered a negative.

Everyone in the world has to deal with not aligning perfectly with the government's position on this and that.

It's how well we absorb the variables that define our state of nationalism. We have been dealing with newcomers and east west rivalry since the countries inception. None of this is new except the treasonous bullshit out here in Alberta

[Per]

Isn’t Alberta landlocked?

Any problems they have today to get Ottawa to listen to them would probably grow even worse if they become a foreign nation.
And it would make them even more dependent on the whims of Washington juggling new tariffs and quotas.

Joining the USA as a 51st state might make more sense, but then I guess they can kiss public healthcare goodbye.

[Cousin Strawberry]

They seem to think they can leverage the rail and infrastructure link to the west coast for mutually beneficial trade agreements.

It's asinine.

I swear this is all foreign interference just like the anti Canadian oil movement coming out of BC that was all funded indirectly from the US oil industry. It's dirty pool

[Topper]

Isn’t Alberta landlocked?

Any problems they have today to get Ottawa to listen to them would probably grow even worse if they become a foreign nation.
And it would make them even more dependent on the whims of Washington juggling new tariffs and quotas.

Joining the USA as a 51st state might make more sense, but then I guess they can kiss public healthcare goodbye.

They would gain rights to ocean ports under recognized international law for landlocked countries. UN Law of the Sea is the basis.

The Canadian Supreme Court has already decided, when BC fought TMX expansion, that Provinces can not block a trans Provincial pipeline.

The issue is, Canadian oil is primarily exported through the US. The US knows this and pays a discounted price because Canada has only that export avenue. Canada loses 20%-30% off the going rate. The US then exports it at market price making money on the arbitrage. Canada needs to get the oil to other markets.

An eastern pipeline, that would supply eastern Canada (imported oil from Venezuela and Alberta via the USA at market price) as well as export across the Atlantic. A Pacific coast line that opens up trans Pacific markets.

In the east, politically powerful Quebec blocks a pipeline, in the west, Aboriginal and Environmental groups block the pipeline.

On the west coast, Trudeau implemented a tanker ban after the Exxon Valdes disaster. It has never been revisited in light of modern navigation and double hulled modern tankers even though the US has daily tanker traffic off our coast bringing Alaskan crude to the southern 48.

We can have offshore oil platforms and tankers in the North Atlantic off Newfoundland but because a canoeing magazine said the waters off Prince Rupert on the west coast are the most dangerous in the world, we can not access our central west coast ports.

BC's current government has somewhat openness to additional oil out of Vancouver which is odd given they fought the TMX expansion all the way to the Supreme Court.

While all this is going on, Canada's largest potash mine that is in the development stage, decided it will export through a port in Washington State along the Columbia River. They cited, Canadian rail union unrest, regulation red tape and uncertainty and political instability for not using BC ports.