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So reading further rumours, it looks like the Canucks were trying to land Norris from Ottawa. So the theory that the trade of Boeser to Carolina for a first and then flipping that to Ottawa with a plus may be accurate. It may well have been Ottawa that wanted the first and one of our top prospects to send Norris our way. Now we could have kept Boeser and used our first but the hold up was us not wanting to trade one of our top 3 prospects. But maybe if we trade Boeser for a first then we flip 2 1sts for Norris??

So it sounds like the Rantanen deal held everyone up on TDD and the Canucks just may have run out of time to try to land that centre they were looking for.

I'm glad Allvin didn't panic and he did hint that the deals are not dead, just need time to sort through it all. So we do know he is targeting a young centre with term.
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So, when we lose Boeser and Suter for nothing come July 1st what will our trading chips be then? To get a young centre with term? One of our top 3 prospects? Or our first round pick and Hoglander. It just keeps getting worse for these clowns. Like while one guy is bailing water out of a canoe the other drills a hole. The see saw show continues. The mushy middle
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Lot of cup rings with this management team. They know a thing or two about winning.
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Chef just ain’t digging the watered down return on JT Miller. A team of averages and Quinn Hughes. Chytil just ain’t cutting it for me. Why not take a run at Marcus Pettersson and O’Connor on July 1st. These clowns are just throwing shit at walls and seeing what sticks then they tinker from there. Like let’s go for a drive with no destination in mind, tumbleweeds in Death Valley. It’s pure comedy of a sad kind.
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Chef Boi RD wrote: Thu Mar 13, 2025 7:11 am So, when we lose Boeser and Suter for nothing come July 1st what will our trading chips be then? To get a young centre with term? One of our top 3 prospects? Or our first round pick and Hoglander. It just keeps getting worse for these clowns. Like while one guy is bailing water out of a canoe the other drills a hole. The see saw show continues. The mushy middle
Not a lot of UFA's worth what they will get paid this coming summer IMHO but the summer after there are a number of great players available. So get good enough to compete this coming summer and then blow the entire wad on the crop of free agents 2025/2026.

Quasi rush Willander, hope Dpetey doesn't suffer the sophomore curse and hope Sushi can actually score in the NHL. Swindle Edmonton on a Demko trade and life looks not too bad.

I was saying to my GF, an Oilers fan' that I hope Aqua man goes after McDavid, not just with a record setting contract but also, free cars, a free condo, set up a restaurant for his wife, all sorts of tax free shit that almost gets him in trouble with both the NHL and CRA. I mean I would.
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Chytil's looking like a nothingburger. Flash and dash with no cash. To compound it is he's a defensive liability. Couldn't believe the weak ass read and play on that Flames' shorthanded goal last night. Really disappointing.

Just hope when Miller hits the downturn in his career (hopefully sooner than later at 32), Mancini will come into his own as a legit D to mitigate this trade.
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Well it isn't just Mancini we got. We also got Marcus Pettersson. Drew O'Conner is a serviceable bottom 6 with short term.

But Chytle has not really impressed me at all. He is fast, he can dangle but his finish is lacking and he isn't playmaker. I can't see him being a favourite of Toch if we have any other options. I wonder if he plays wing? We definitely need to upgrade at centre. Someone like JT Miller would be nice.
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Nuckertuzzi wrote: Thu Mar 13, 2025 5:27 pm Chytil's looking like a nothingburger. Flash and dash with no cash. To compound it is he's a defensive liability. Couldn't believe the weak ass read and play on that Flames' shorthanded goal last night. Really disappointing.

Just hope when Miller hits the downturn in his career (hopefully sooner than later at 32), Mancini will come into his own as a legit D to mitigate this trade.
The only positive out of the Miller trade was getting out from under his contract. None of the returnees bring me out of my seat. Just throw ins. Like I said, MPete and O’Connoe were UFAs this July, if you adore them so much take a run at them July 1st. I just don’t like they way the new crew rolls. The Lindholm deal was a waste of time. These bro’s can’t decide which way is up and which way is down. Chef is at wits end. Blow it up, start again - Full tank. The only hope for the Miller deal panning out beyond getting out from under his contract is Mancini. Proper paisano, the next coming of Bobby Manno in my books.
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Hockey Widow wrote: Thu Mar 13, 2025 6:00 pm Well it isn't just Mancini we got. We also got Marcus Pettersson. Drew O'Conner is a serviceable bottom 6 with short term.
I took that into account. I guess what I meant to say is hoping Mancini will become the important piece that no one is accounting for that could really make this trade a good one a few years down the road when Miller's done and he comes into his own.

I agree with Chef questioning the need to acquire Marcus and Drew now when we could've tried in the summer with no acquisition cost. Then that 1st rounder would be the key component to the trade. Just depends on how much you value the playoffs this year. I personally don't care for it when our forward group is so punchless there's not much hope to do anything significant.

All told Chytil, Mancini, Pettersson and O'Connor is not a horrible package. Could be worse I suppose. Miller's age and term and money off the books may very well be the best, most underrated aspect of this trade, let alone the locker room dynamics. So I don't hate the trade at all in totality. Just wish we held on to that 1st. Then I'm happy.
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Chef just ain’t chilled with the forward group, punchless is a good description. It gets worse knowing there is zilch in the system. I have lekkerimaki concerns, he’s slight and doesn’t get the room he does in the AHL to release his shot. Very concerning. If it comes to getting rid of one of him, Willander or D-Pete to get more forward help it’s Lekkerimaki I’m sacrificing.
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Pettersson is a legit # 3 Dman. He gave this team likely a 750K per year discount. The guy is a damn good player. Who says he would have signed here in the off season? They got out of Heinen's and Desharnais' deals which by all accounts everyone hated. People seem oblivious to the fact that Miller waived for one team. Not surprising its the pom pom waivers for the previous administration that are crying the loudest about the current management.
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Blob Mckenzie wrote: Thu Mar 13, 2025 6:53 pm Who says he would have signed here in the off season?

No guarantees, but failing that you can use the cap expense elsewhere. If there's nothing else out there so be it. You get a 1st rounder to show. If you sign Marcus and Drew on July 1, and there's nothing to suggest they wouldn't have had a good chance, then you get all. That's maximizing value.

To be clear I like Marcus quite a lot. Just not enough as someone you have to get now over risking losing out in the summer. The fact he signed so quickly with a discount suggests this would've been a top destination for him in July.

I'm not sure this is a debate over previous management compared to this one. Not for me anyway. Both did good things and bad things, some more than the other. My gripe is with what's above them.
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Agreed. I can't stand the Aquilinis. This franchise got boned when they took over. Tom Gaglardi and Ryan Beedie would have been so much better. Hell, so would have Jimmy Pattison, or Ron Toigo as a frontman.
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Man, seeing what Gaglardi has to work with there. Just goes to show what happens when you have patience and can project it downward.
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Nuckertuzzi wrote: Thu Mar 13, 2025 8:57 pm Man, seeing what Gaglardi has to work with there. Just goes to show what happens when you have patience and can project it downward.
Gaglardi has an absolutely massive staff. He lets them do their jobs. Lol there's 4 ex Canucks on that management/scouting staff. Jim Nill, Joe Macdonnell, Jordie Benn and Jason Jaffray.
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