2024 Offseason - moving forward

[Aaronp18]

show me the hot streaks.

Beginning of the year he looked good, the stretch from Oct 27-Nov 11 in 8 games he had 15 points.

Guess if we're looking at point production it's not really even the hot streaks but he was fairly consistent until the end of January.

If I mathed correctly he had 63 points in the 49 games before February, if he maintained that 1.2857 PPG pace he'd hit 105 points for the season and likely no argument is made regarding his $11.6m.

If he can continue to get bigger, stronger and faster he very clearly has the hockey IQ so we could see the point production increase even more and see him perform better in the playoffs as well.

Not even really arguing for him, if there was a trade to be made for someone with a little more grit and tenacity with a little less scoring touch I'd be interested in knowing full details and could see it as an improvement. But big trades aren't the easiest to make in the cap world and he is the asset we have, may as well hope for the best at this point.

[Picker of Cherries]

Trading Pettersson isn’t in the cards after this management just signed him. That’s likely to turn out to be a good thing.
Playoffs where three of the core, Pettersson, Demko, or Hughes, were not particularly outstanding relative to their earlier play, bodes well for the team’s playoff future. If healthy all three should preform better in the playoffs next time around.
Their best playoff performers were Miller, Boeser, Lindholm and Zadorov - none of the young core, but the young core got valuable experience.
Miller and Boeser should be able to maintain close to their playoff pace for the next few years.
The plan is for DeBrusk to replace Lindholm. That’s a decent bet because he has been a solid playoff performer, and he’ll be in the top six, instead on centring the third line.
Zadorov had a miraculous post season, and will never play better again. He was very lucky in the playoffs but he would have regressed if he had resigned here. They signed Hronek to a large contract. They must believe he can show more in the post season than he did this last season. That and Hughes continued development may mean they are okay losing Zadorov’s scoring.
In the post season, Heinen and Sherwood likely contribute more than Mikheyev and Lafferty did.
If healthy, and if their PK continues to improve with the newly signed players, the team should be better next post season being lead by Pettersson, Demko and Hughes.

[Topper]

show me the hot streaks.

Beginning of the year he looked good, the stretch from Oct 27-Nov 11 in 8 games he had 15 points.

Guess if we're looking at point production it's not really even the hot streaks but he was fairly consistent until the end of January.

If I mathed correctly he had 63 points in the 49 games before February, if he maintained that 1.2857 PPG pace he'd hit 105 points for the season and likely no argument is made regarding his $11.6m.

If he can continue to get bigger, stronger and faster he very clearly has the hockey IQ so we could see the point production increase even more and see him perform better in the playoffs as well.

Not even really arguing for him, if there was a trade to be made for someone with a little more grit and tenacity with a little less scoring touch I'd be interested in knowing full details and could see it as an improvement. But big trades aren't the easiest to make in the cap world and he is the asset we have, may as well hope for the best at this point.

Yes the entire team was hit in that stretch. Give goals was becoming the norm for the Canucks. There were the blowouts of Edmonton (Oct X2) and San Jose (Nov), his hat trick against a then dismal Nashville team.

For me, great players dominate with multipoint games. That is what separates them from the good players. How did scooter do for multipoint games?

Oct - 6
Nov - 2
Dec - 5
Jan - 6
Feb - 2
Mar - 3
Apr - 0

[Meds]

show me the hot streaks.

Beginning of the year he looked good, the stretch from Oct 27-Nov 11 in 8 games he had 15 points.

Guess if we're looking at point production it's not really even the hot streaks but he was fairly consistent until the end of January.

If I mathed correctly he had 63 points in the 49 games before February, if he maintained that 1.2857 PPG pace he'd hit 105 points for the season and likely no argument is made regarding his $11.6m.

If he can continue to get bigger, stronger and faster he very clearly has the hockey IQ so we could see the point production increase even more and see him perform better in the playoffs as well.

Not even really arguing for him, if there was a trade to be made for someone with a little more grit and tenacity with a little less scoring touch I'd be interested in knowing full details and could see it as an improvement. But big trades aren't the easiest to make in the cap world and he is the asset we have, may as well hope for the best at this point.

Yes the entire team was hit in that stretch. Give goals was becoming the norm for the Canucks. There were the blowouts of Edmonton (Oct X2) and San Jose (Nov), his hat trick against a then dismal Nashville team.

For me, great players dominate with multipoint games. That is what separates them from the good players. How did scooter do for multipoint games?

Oct - 6
Nov - 2
Dec - 5
Jan - 6
Feb - 2
Mar - 3
Apr - 0

Topper, I agree with that take on great players dominating. However, I will qualify that by saying that great players also contribute a single point in the majority of the games that are not multi-point outings.

To that end, that record of multi-point games seems reasonable for a great player (not McDavid/Lemieux great mind you) in October, December, and January.

October - 6/9.
December - 5/12
January - 6/13

Pettersson had 32 games this season where he did not register a single point.

10 of those games came AFTER the extension. He produced 0 points in 50% of the games he played after getting his pay day.

The Canucks gave this guy $11.6M x 8 years when he was already showing signs of inconsistent play, being held off the score sheet, in 20 out of 62 games. Would anyone here make one of their employees, or like to see one of their coworkers become, the highest paid worker in company history when he (or she) is a no show 35% of the time?

[Cousin Strawberry]

Baloneysson11.6!

[Strangelove]

Baloneysson11.6!

[Cousin Strawberry]

The reality is we are committed to the kid for 8 more years so we better get behind him and shoot positivity vibes at his giant lumpy melon.

He has some serious skills which is the one thing you can't teach. He will need to get on the Blobby Beers diet stat though...that falling and flopping shite has to go

[Topper]

Zero points in 39% of the games, next step out the single point game where he only got a a PP or empty net goal.

How much of the season was he a dynamic offensive threat that would have justified his $11.6M

[donlever]

I think most will acknowledge that he had a let down as the season wore on and was all but invisible in the playoffs. I kept waiting for him to flip a switch. I think he has shown difficulty playing through adversity and needs to find a way to make that mental adjustment. Was he injured? I'll accept he had something with his knee that he obviously was not fully candid about at the time but I also accept that it was an injury he had to find a way to play through and he wasn't able to step up his game and do so.

Its hard for me to argue that after last season he has shown himself to be an 11.6 million dollar player though. It was/is too risky to let him go to RFA status so I get the urgency in getting him signed. I do believe he will grow into his contract and I do believe he will find a way to develop some mental toughness because to me that is his biggest issue. Things have always come easy to him and he has been able to dominate at every level. Well the NHL is a different beast.

He was showing signs before he was extended so it cannot be blamed on the new contract. Just as JT had to mature and learn to not be so emotional on the ice, Pettersson needs to learn to not be so emotional. I'm behind him and I think he will bounce back and show he is an annual 100+ point player.

Nice summarization Wids.

I'll speak only to your summary.

Annual 100+ point player.

Wonderful.

20 - 25 point post season player.

What I ultimately care about ..

[Strangelove]

20 - 25 point post season player.

Well he had a phenomenal post season in 2020.

[Strangelove]

his giant lumpy melon.

[Aaronp18]

I think we’re all in full agreement that EP can collect whatever paycheck the Aquas are willing to throw at him if we see postseason success.

And at this point there’s only one result that will satisfy us all.

[Cousin Strawberry]

his giant lumpy melon.

[Cousin Strawberry]

[BoS]

As many noted, he was great until around AS weekend. Then he hit a wall. His effort did improve in the playoffs, but he really looked weak on his skates.

He has the potential to be the best Swedish player in the league.
He was left off team Swedens starting roster. That should motivate him. He must be pissed about the way his season went.