Out of Town Scores - 2022-23

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Re: Out of Town Scores - 2022-23

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Why keep talking about a rebuild when you know who your owner is? It was never going to happen, it never happened, it's never going to happen regardless of who's "in charge". FA was never going to hire anyone who had the word rebuild in his vocabulary. The only one who went against narrative was Linden, who foolishly believe he could revive this franchise the right way. He learned the hard way that his reputation was used to get rid of the owner's coaching mistake.

It's funny that people are still going on with the media-driven narrative re: Benning after a decade. Let it go. He, like any employee of the Aquas are hired to be yes-men and do his bidding. There hasn't been success because the strategy is flawed. "Oh, he just got lucky..." Every pick is luck. He filled the most important positions in a quick manner that no other GM in Canucks history has in 53 years. These are the same guys y'all love and think should be paid $12M/year on a max contract. Every single Canucks GM has been flawed, but give the man his due for this core.

Guys screaming for a rebuild is now flip-flopping on not having a rebuild and calling out a known flip-flopping poster who's agreed with a non-rebuild but is now screaming for a rebuild. Absolutely ridiculous.
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Carl Yagro wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 3:13 pm

It's funny that people are still going on with the media-driven narrative re: Benning after a decade.
Benning gets brought up daily by a handful of trolls here. If they didn’t try and gaslight the place with this shit nobody would talk about him. He made a few good picks absolutely. He also put the team in cap hell and cleaned out the cupboards. He won’t ever be a GM in the league again.
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Blob Mckenzie wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 3:44 pm
Carl Yagro wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 3:13 pm

It's funny that people are still going on with the media-driven narrative re: Benning after a decade.
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Blob Mckenzie wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 3:44 pm
Carl Yagro wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 3:13 pm

It's funny that people are still going on with the media-driven narrative re: Benning after a decade.
He won’t ever be a GM in the league again.
You think he’ll receive the same fate Gillis has post Canuck firing? We’ll see. Gillis hasn’t found a job with another franchise since he was fired in 2014.
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Strangelove wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 4:09 pm
Blob Mckenzie wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 3:44 pm
Carl Yagro wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 3:13 pm

It's funny that people are still going on with the media-driven narrative re: Benning after a decade.
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Chef Boi RD wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 4:29 pm
Blob Mckenzie wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 3:44 pm
Carl Yagro wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 3:13 pm

It's funny that people are still going on with the media-driven narrative re: Benning after a decade.
He won’t ever be a GM in the league again.
You think he’ll receive the same fate Gillis has post Canuck firing? We’ll see. Gillis hasn’t found a job with another franchise since he was fired in 2014.
I think he belongs in a scouting position. You don’t want that fella opening his meat whistle and being the front man of a team.
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Strangelove wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 4:09 pm I’m pretty decent with smoke and mirrors.
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^ Nope, that is ACTUALLY you Blob!

2Fingers wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 2:57 pm
rikster wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 2:32 pm
2Fingers wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 2:07 pm
Tciso wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 11:57 am Benning never did a rebuild. He got lucky with a few top 10 picks, and panicked. A rebuild would have drafted and not traded away that pile of 2nd round picks, or have taken OEL in exchange for a year of bad cap.
+100

If he did it right then the Nucks would be in a better position today.
Would they?

Each year players retire or leave the league for various reasons and the main source of replacing these players is thru the draft and with some exceptions most of the players who are drafted are JAG's and the vast majority of players drafted never reach JAG status...

https://www.capfriendly.com/trades/staff/jim-benning

Not a lot to get excited about and I'm not sure which draft picks that got dealt away would have made much of an impact on the roster today?

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How would we know?

They gave up a lot of picks and where has that got them? The outside looking in again.
Well it did get them to the playoffs in 2020

... which is actually when they started "giving up a lot of picks".

They didn't "give up picks" in Benning's first 6 drafts altogether really.

In fact, they drafted 43 times in those 6 years (42 is the average).

In those 6 years, they drafted 7 times in the 1st round, 5 times in the 2nd, and 5 times in the 3rd.

Then they started trading picks for guys like Miller, Toffoli, Garland, OEL, Dickinson.

I mean one could argue they should've acquired extra picks in those 6 years, but they didn't "give up picks".

From 2020 on though?

Sure, but I like Miller and Garland.

(and Toffoli helped get us into the playoffs)
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They gave up picks for Vey, Baertschi, Sutter, Gudbranson etc just off the top of my head also Pedan.
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and what any of this re-hashing has to do with "Out of Town Scores", I'll never know.... :?
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Cornuck wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 4:48 pm and what any of this re-hashing has to do with "Out of Town Scores", I'll never know.... :?
Yeah let’s get it back on track.

Jerry’s errrrrrr Jimmy’s kids get a bit carried away.
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Blob Mckenzie wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 4:47 pm They gave up picks for Vey, Baertschi, Sutter, Gudbranson etc just off the top of my head also Pedan.
And your point is?
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Strangelove wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 4:56 pm
Blob Mckenzie wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 4:47 pm They gave up picks for Vey, Baertschi, Sutter, Gudbranson etc just off the top of my head also Pedan.
And your point is?
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Blob Mckenzie wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 4:58 pm
Strangelove wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 4:56 pm
Blob Mckenzie wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 4:47 pm They gave up picks for Vey, Baertschi, Sutter, Gudbranson etc just off the top of my head also Pedan.
And your point is?
Just waking you up at the wheel oldtimer. Share some porridge with Rikster
Are you high?

(again)

We were talking about the total number of draft selections made...
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