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Strangelove wrote: ↑Sun Oct 25, 2020 8:46 pm
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Seriously, lock him up...
Yeah, that’s like one of the hallmarks of dictators, locking political opponents up on Trumped up charges.
That, and attacking the freedom of the press.
Given Donny’s admiration for Putin, Erdogan, the Saudis and Kim Jong Un, and his talk of a third term, it wouldn’t come as a surprise for anyone if he should choose to go that route.
Whatever you do, always give 100 %!
Except when donating blood.
Strangelove wrote: ↑Sun Oct 25, 2020 8:46 pm
[youtube)5649FAF3_ws[/youtube]
Seriously, lock him up...
Yeah, that’s like one of the hallmarks of dictators, locking political opponents up on Trumped up charges.
That, and attacking the freedom of the press.
Given Donny’s admiration for Putin, Erdogan, the Saudis and Kim Jong Un, and his talk of a third term, it wouldn’t come as a surprise for anyone if he should choose to go that route.
Hahahahhahahahahahahahahahahaha.
Freedom of the press.
The modern press has long since gone beyond the point of where they operated in a fashion that warranted those rights and freedoms. They foment fear and publish half truths, if not outright lies, followed by buried retractions.....if any at all. They are about click bait and profit, and catering very obviously towards one spectrum of the political realm.
If you honestly can’t see this than you actually are not worth the time it takes to converse with.....
Strangelove wrote: ↑Sun Oct 25, 2020 8:46 pm
[youtube)5649FAF3_ws[/youtube]
Seriously, lock him up...
Yeah, that’s like one of the hallmarks of dictators, locking political opponents up on Trumped up charges.
That, and attacking the freedom of the press.
Given Donny’s admiration for Putin, Erdogan, the Saudis and Kim Jong Un, and his talk of a third term, it wouldn’t come as a surprise for anyone if he should choose to go that route.
Hahahahhahahahahahahahahahahaha.
Freedom of the press.
The modern press has long since gone beyond the point of where they operated in a fashion that warranted those rights and freedoms. They foment fear and publish half truths, if not outright lies, followed by buried retractions.....if any at all. They are about click bait and profit, and catering very obviously towards one spectrum of the political realm.
If you honestly can’t see this than you actually are not worth the time it takes to converse with.....
Oh Pee
If you are under the impression that the newspapers of the 18th century in any way or manner were more balanced and objective than the modern press, you are wildly mistaken, sir.
Yet it was in those days that the fight for free press stood. In Sweden they won those rights in 1766, and we still honour those ideals. It is illegal in Sweden to investigate who an anonymous source is. If someone is trying to pressure a journalist to reveal their source, they are looking at steep fines and possible jail time.
A free press is a fundamental part of democracy. In a society where the government can prevent articles from being published, there is no true democracy anymore.
And yes, many articles are biased, slanted, even wrong at times. That is part of the deal. But if they publish falsehoods - that’s a different matter. Slander is also a prosecutable offence. But that prosecution is after the fact. There should be no censorship.
Whatever you do, always give 100 %!
Except when donating blood.
Strangelove wrote: ↑Sun Oct 25, 2020 8:46 pm
[youtube)5649FAF3_ws[/youtube]
Seriously, lock him up...
Yeah, that’s like one of the hallmarks of dictators, locking political opponents up on Trumped up charges.
That, and attacking the freedom of the press.
Given Donny’s admiration for Putin, Erdogan, the Saudis and Kim Jong Un, and his talk of a third term, it wouldn’t come as a surprise for anyone if he should choose to go that route.
Hahahahhahahahahahahahahahahaha.
Freedom of the press.
The modern press has long since gone beyond the point of where they operated in a fashion that warranted those rights and freedoms. They foment fear and publish half truths, if not outright lies, followed by buried retractions.....if any at all. They are about click bait and profit, and catering very obviously towards one spectrum of the political realm.
If you honestly can’t see this than you actually are not worth the time it takes to converse with.....
Oh Pee
If you are under the impression that the newspapers of the 18th century in any way or manner were more balanced and objective than the modern press, you are wildly mistaken, sir.
Yet it was in those days that the fight for free press stood. In Sweden they won those rights in 1766, and we still honour those ideals. It is illegal in Sweden to investigate who an anonymous source is. If someone is trying to pressure a journalist to reveal their source, they are looking at steep fines and possible jail time.
A free press is a fundamental part of democracy. In a society where the government can prevent articles from being published, there is no true democracy anymore.
And yes, many articles are biased, slanted, even wrong at times. That is part of the deal. But if they publish falsehoods - that’s a different matter. Slander is also a prosecutable offence. But that prosecution is after the fact. There should be no censorship.
You’re hilarious Per.
I have no clue what journalism was like in Sweden 250+ years ago. Nor do I care. I have seen a drastic change in Canadian Journalism over the last 25 years. I won’t say that the press has never been biased, however the bias has shifted massively to the left. Here in Canada any group that would lean right or report something contrary to what the government wants people to think is shunned and in some cases refused access.
Please point out where I said that a free press is not important to democracy? It is important. All I said is that The current version of it has reached the point where it is abusing that right and is no longer deserving of warranting such high statutes.
Mëds wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:38 pmPlease point out where I said that a free press is not important to democracy?
Mëds wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:30 am
The modern press has long since gone beyond the point of where they operated in a fashion that warranted those rights and freedoms.
You say they no longer deserve "those rights and freedoms". To me that sounds like you do not support the concept of a free press.
But very few countries do. According to the most recent Press Freedom Index, only 14 countries qualify for the highest category of press freedom.
Canada is close though, in 16th place. Almost made the cut. Maybe next year!
The USA is now in 45th place, trailing countries like Jamaica, Namibia, Ghana, Burkina Faso, Botswana, Trinidad and Tobago and Uruguay and is roughly on par with Papau New Guinea and Senegal. I donnu, didn't Donny have a name for those countries?
At least it's not as bad as Turkey or Russia. Or (shudder) China. Yet.
