Out of Town Scores - 2022-23

[Cousin Strawberry]

There was no tirade. I just mopped the floor with ESQ again. But that’s a great contribution from yourself.

As an unbiased observer, you look more like Gorn to ESQ's Kirk.



You're much too slow (in every sense of the word) whilst Esquire strikes fast and true.

And Blob, what's with that ridiculous outfit!

Fuck this one has me laughing haha!!!

[Megaterio Llamas]

There was no tirade. I just mopped the floor with ESQ again. But that’s a great contribution from yourself.

As an unbiased observer, you look more like Gorn to ESQ's Kirk.



You're much too slow (in every sense of the word) whilst Esquire strikes fast and true.

And Blob, what's with that ridiculous outfit!

Fuck this one has me laughing haha!!!

The precisely aimed judo chop to the carotid artery tells me Kirk studied under Bill Conrad at some point.

[Chef Boi RD]

There was no tirade. I just mopped the floor with ESQ again. But that’s a great contribution from yourself.

As an unbiased observer, you look more like Gorn to ESQ's Kirk.



You're much too slow (in every sense of the word) whilst Esquire strikes fast and true.

And Blob, what's with that ridiculous outfit!

[Chef Boi RD]

To the troll: I understand the retool never said I agreed with it. Maybe it can work. Most likely it won’t. But with the teams best players not embracing it they have no other choice. Is any of this sinking in or is the goal to burn the place down? Kapil is that you?

You’re all over the map to elicit a response and don’t have the mental capacity to discuss the actual sport.

The new management at least can pay bottom six players accordingly.

Joshua
Digiuseppe
Aman
Dries are what a total of 3 million? Compared to Sutter, Roussel, Beagle, Air Thief at 16 million.


You’re as dumb as a stick.

You understand the “retool” now? What took you so long? What makes you think the best players have ever embraced a rebuild? As far as I know no professional hockey player supports a tank rebuild. Why would they? Losing isn’t fun.

Chef Boy R Mickey D's. We had an opportunity for a rebuild back in 2017 but we didn't. We did the opposite, and pissed away cap and picks. Fast forward 6 years, and unless we flush the core of Benning's drafting (aka, our best players), it is too late to rebuild.

Illogical

[Tciso]

Illogical

Ok Chef. Tell us what your re-build looks like from where we are today.

[Topper]

And Blob, what's with that ridiculous outfit!

A prehistoric Don Cherry wearing his grandmother's curtains

[Madcombinepilot]

Illogical

Ok Chef. Tell us what your re-build looks like from where we are today.

(MCP eagerly awaits where the mobile goal post are set originally to laugh about how this will be a zero accountability rebuttal)

[Blob Mckenzie]

There was no tirade. I just mopped the floor with ESQ again. But that’s a great contribution from yourself.

As an unbiased observer, you look more like Gorn to ESQ's Kirk.



You're much too slow (in every sense of the word) whilst Esquire strikes fast and true.

And Blob, what's with that ridiculous outfit!

It’s neat that you still have dreams in your mid 70’s.

[rikster]

Illogical

Ok Chef. Tell us what your re-build looks like from where we are today.

I wouldn’t mind you explaining what a rebuild is?

There’s a segment of fan bases around the league and some media who use this as a fall back path to success and any chance of winning the Cup…

Because rebuilds are the obvious way to build a winning team, there must be many, many examples of teams who have taken the scorch earth approach and won a Cup, right?

I asked a very adamant and vocal rebuild advocate the question and he gave the Penguins as an example..

An organization which drafted 5th, 1st, 2nd, 1st, 2nd, overall in 5 consecutive drafts starting in 2002 and were lucky enough that players like Fleury, Malkin and a generational talent Crosby were available in those drafts…

But to his credit they did win the Cup 3 times, the first in 2009 and two more in 2016 and 2017 thanks to a number of key acquisitions by trade because their days of drafting at the head of the line were long over…

I asked him how long do these rebuilds generally take?

And if rebuilding is a guaranteed path to success, how come there haven’t been more teams winning the Cup and why are teams like the Sabres who haven’t been to the playoffs since 2011 still rebuilding?

And how did the advent of the salary cap in 2005 impact the ability for teams to stockpile and keep blue chip prospects?

What impact does the disappearance of the second contract have on teams ability to stockpile and keep blue chip prospects?

Teams like the Penguins, Hawks and more recently the Bolts acquired a core of 4 or 5 elite players and then filled their rosters with JAG’s because those elite core players took away their teams ability to draft at the head of the class and when you go back and look over their draft history, you will find a very, very high rate of misses with the odd hit….

They cycled JAG’s in and out of their rosters as they tap danced the salary cap and at the end of the day they began to fade away from being serious contenders as their elite core began to play on the back 9 of their careers…

So for me, the take away is that you keep rebuilding until you luck out (especially now with the draft lottery system) and draft a core of elite players whom you can build your team around by way of draft, development, trades and signings…

And you want your elite core to include a goalie, dman and centre as a must…

What then should Vancouver do? should it be all in on Demko, Hughes and EP or should it roll the dice on a full rebuild and hope to draft better players down the road?

Because with those 3 players being healthy the team will have a very hard time tanking and being so bad that their odds are so high that they get the 1at or even 2nd overall picks in consecutive years or over a 5 year stretch….

Or do you do what this management group is trying to do? Build around your elite core with draft picks, an emphasis on better development, signing and trades?

Unless I misunderstand what a rebuild is, I see the path this management group taking is the obvious and thank the former management group for bringing Demko, EP and Hughes into the organization…

Take care…

[Chef Boi RD]

Well said Rikster.

Benning recognized the rebuild was over after having sewn up the 3 most important positions in hockey - (C - Pettersson, D - Hughes, G - Demko #benningbuilt), hence him going back to the retool model that was in affect prior to 2017 otherwise known as the Sedin Year. So after locking up 2 quality winger prospects at the 2019 draft (Podkolzin and Hoglander) after landing future Norris trophy D-man Hughes at the 2018 draft, thanks to Doyle’s Holland, the rebuild years end

After the 2019 draft, the short rebuild - 3 years consecutively (2017, 2018 and 2019) came to an official close. Official full tank rebuilds should NOT take any longer than 3 consecutive and “successful” draft classes as Rikster so eloquently described in detail.

The new crew did recognize Bennings great work in those 3 official rebuild years and that is why on cue they are sticking with the “retool” which took place post 2019 hence the trade for Miller after 2020 and trade for Garland and OEL in 2021.

The new crew have been extremely loyal to their word - “retool” it’s just that some of us became confused for a short period post Horvat trade thinking the rebuild was back when in fact that trade was a retool trade that was simply part of a retool trade (Hronek) to come later

[Madcombinepilot]

Illogical

Ok Chef. Tell us what your re-build looks like from where we are today.

I wouldn’t mind you explaining what a rebuild is?

….. inserts rational comments here…

Take care…

Damn it Rikky, I was looking forward to all the adjustments and the goofy rationalizations (almost ghomeresque).. you just had to bail him out, huh?

[Chef Boi RD]

And ole Chef here is looking forward to the day when MadCombover grows the nads to be original. Keep up the try MCP I look forward to your acceptance speech my friend

‘I wanna be loved’ is a great song by Elvis Costello, give it a whirl.

[SKYO]

Rikster

[Tciso]

Benning never did a rebuild. He got lucky with a few top 10 picks, and panicked. A rebuild would have drafted and not traded away that pile of 2nd round picks, or have taken OEL in exchange for a year of bad cap.

[Madcombinepilot]

And ole Chef here is looking forward to the day when MadCombover grows the nads to be original.

Does this mean I am supposed to lie through my teeth, change my stories faster than you change underwear after taco night, and never give a straight answer?

‘Cause you'll be looking for a long time with that agenda.

… gotta admit, your a lot like Ghomer with the 100 posts a day, constant trolling, and as soon as someone asks you a straight question, you reply with bullshit and name calling. But hey, you do you.