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Re: The Official CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:11 pm
by Cousin Strawberry
BigTuna wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2019 3:49 pm
Reefer2 wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2019 3:46 pm
BigTuna wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2019 3:34 pm But you are signing "Old Guys" for years thatw ill affect your cap. And Marner, Matthews, Nylander are 22, Rielly 25. Johnsson 24, Kapanen 23.
You have no cap to sigh Marner, Mathews will be gone once his contract is up. Nylander sucks.

FA sucks and folds like a cheap tent, and no d
They acquired 5.2 million extra today in cap, but you fail to understand, LOL>
You have no cap to sign Borser. LOL

Nylander will hit 70-80 book it.

Toronto can now go 10.55 over the cap if they choose.
Wow you need to rise up from dumbasses pube forest to see the trees there bob for the globule

Re: The Official CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:23 pm
by BigTuna
Strangelove wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:08 pm
BigTuna wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:07 pm Yes, and you can go over the cap with that LTIR...
psssst... you're an idiot.

HINT: Teams that use LTIR all season end up with exactly zero deadline cap space.
You are wrong and a moron.

Re: The Official CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:30 pm
by Strangelove
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: The Official CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:32 pm
by BigTuna
BTW, LTIR can be used in the summer.

Re: The Official CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:45 pm
by Strangelove
BigTuna wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:32 pm BTW, LTIR can be used in the summer.
And your point is?

Tuna: "Leaves acquired 5.2 million extra today in cap" Image

Re: The Official CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2019 5:40 pm
by BigTuna
Strangelove wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:45 pm
BigTuna wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:32 pm BTW, LTIR can be used in the summer.
And your point is?

Tuna: "Leaves acquired 5.2 million extra today in cap" Image
So LTIR is not cap space?

Re: The Official CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2019 6:03 pm
by Strangelove
BigTuna wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2019 5:40 pm
Strangelove wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:45 pm
BigTuna wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:32 pm BTW, LTIR can be used in the summer.
And your point is?

Tuna: "Leaves acquired 5.2 million extra today in cap" Image
So LTIR is not cap space?
viewtopic.php?p=349242#p349242

They did not gain "extra cap" you ninny!

Yesterday they had $4M in cap space... now they have negative $734,699

(they are over the cap now)

https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/mapleleafs

But yeah, they have Clarkson's $5.25M they can put on LTIR.

Which means, when all is said and done, they can break even cap space wise.

Tuna: "Leaves acquired 5.2 million extra today in cap" Image

"It's simple, just trade for all the LTIR guys, they give you extra cap space!" :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: The Official CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2019 6:45 pm
by rikster
This is the best explaination I've seen;

https://twitter.com/EarlSchwartz27/stat ... 6175848454

As someone pointed out, Marner needs to be signed before the season starts or the leaves will have even more challenges getting cap compliant, they can't afford another Nylander situation where his cap hit increases everyday after the season starts...

Take care...

Re: The Official CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2019 7:57 pm
by vic
so a 10.5 mil offersheet on Marner (2 firsts a second a third) cannot be matched by the leaves unless they clear out 1.3 2.269 more within that 48 hour period.

Edit - had the wrong calc - right now the most they can offer Marner and stay cap compliant over the summer is around 7.3 - anything over that, they have to trade another player

Re: The Official CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2019 8:51 pm
by Hockey Widow
Dumbass isn’t so dumb. He put the leaves in this situation praying someone gets an offer sheet to Mariner for 12M per cause he knows he can’t match now. He’s playing for the picks! Smart move.

Re: The Official CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:24 pm
by Strangelove
It's complicated, but the Leaves do get something out of the deal, depending on what else happens.

In theory this should help them to utilize more of the LTIR room created by Horton going on LTIR.

I mean, there were other ways to do that before their summer moves, but at this point?

... well I guess this move became feasible.

They're committed to using all $10.5M of that LTIR space now though.

Meaning they're going to match any offersheet in my opinion.

If there is a monster offersheet they'll just have to trade a forward like Johnsson/Kapanen/Nylander.

At least that's my take.

They'd look like fools if they let another team sign him away and then be sitting there with all that unused LTIR room right?

And of course there are other pitfalls to playing this game, no deadline cap space, and injuries could ruin them.

Wonder if Tuna will dust off his old Clarkson jersey. 8-)

Re: The Official CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2019 11:29 pm
by Topper
They'll be fucked with minor short term injuries and unable to call up replacements for 4-5 games.

Re: The Official CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 2:55 am
by Island Nucklehead
Topper wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2019 11:29 pm They'll be fucked with minor short term injuries and unable to call up replacements for 4-5 games.
This.

Something tells me the medical staff will be asked to be extra-cautious this season...

Re: The Official CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 6:28 am
by BigTuna
vic wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2019 7:57 pm so a 10.5 mil offersheet on Marner (2 firsts a second a third) cannot be matched by the Leaves unless they clear out 1.3 2.269 more within that 48 hour period.

Edit - had the wrong calc - right now the most they can offer Marner and stay cap compliant over the summer is around 7.3 - anything over that, they have to trade another player
Let's stop with the offersheet stuff. It ain't happening.Marner already turned down about 10 million per from the leaves.

Re: The Official CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 6:29 am
by BigTuna
Strangelove wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2019 6:03 pm
BigTuna wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2019 5:40 pm
Strangelove wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:45 pm
BigTuna wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:32 pm BTW, LTIR can be used in the summer.
And your point is?

Tuna: "Leaves acquired 5.2 million extra today in cap" Image
So LTIR is not cap space?
viewtopic.php?p=349242#p349242

They did not gain "extra cap" you ninny!

Yesterday they had $4M in cap space... now they have negative $734,699

(they are over the cap now)

https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/mapleleafs

But yeah, they have Clarkson's $5.25M they can put on LTIR.

Which means, when all is said and done, they can break even cap space wise.

Tuna: "Leaves acquired 5.2 million extra today in cap" Image

"It's simple, just trade for all the LTIR guys, they give you extra cap space!" :lol: :lol: :lol:
You don't want to acknowlege their cap is 92 million this upcoming season?